Inside the Life of a Health Conscious TV Show Host with Cameron Mathison

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well hey everybody welcome back to the

dr. jockers functional nutrition podcast

where we believe your body was designed

to heal itself and we're here to equip

you with the resources and the

strategies so you can turn on your inner

healing potential and I'm excited about

today's interview I've got a good friend

of mine he's a friend and a client and

he's an actor so he's got a busy busy

lifestyle and really a great health

story and so this is Cameron Mathison

and Cameron we met just online through

you know messaging back and forth with

Instagram I know he'd been following a

lot of my youtube videos and he's

actually the he actually is on the

Hallmark Channel he's a host of home and

family really popular show on the

Hallmark Channel he also does

Entertainment Tonight as well another

popular show

he's been on Dancing with the Stars

right and so so that's a really popular

one Good Morning America as well so

you've probably if you've turned on your

TV in the last 20 years you've probably

seen Cameron at some point I think your

was your most popular your most famous

role on All My Children is that correct

yeah children for like 14 years playing

Ryan Lavery so it sort of comes with me

but it still seems to come up almost

more than anything which is which is

very sweet absolutely you are Emmy

nominated for that is that correct it

was yeah I know when when we first

started connecting I was like this he

just looks really familiar like I've

seen him I've never I had never you know

I haven't had cable or anything like

that I really watched much TV in the

last 20 years or so so I was like where

do where have I seen him before but you

know at some point hallmark movies

you've been on all these different

hallmark movies great movies and so you

make your way around a real recognizable

face and truly one of the nicest guys

that I have ever met

I really love working with him as a

client and so absolutely so camera let's

let's talk about your story

and how you got involved with health and

how you got started with acting well I I

grew up in Canada and I was very strong

at math and science to sort of went into

engineering school is school in Canada

called McGill University and a southern

engineering but my roommate was an actor

one of my best friends stones and I used

to like cut along the lines with him we

practise scenes with him we call it

running lines and and then one summer I

used to work for my professors in

between years here in some time and once

ever I couldn't get a job with one of my

professors and it just was tough

consumes and I was out somewhere and

somebody said we should try modeling and

I was like oh good

and I started with an agency many

modeling experience which led to

commercials and then when I started

doing commercials I really got that

acting book I finished up my engineering

degree and then I started studying

acting and in Toronto first booking

stuff there but then when I was living

in Toronto I booked all my children and

I moved to New York for that room that

was the big life-changing experience

there all through that you know it's

interesting because at that time I never

really knew how to eat or you know I was

an Ag I played college basketball at

McGill and I was pretty fit but I mean

if when I look back at my diet it just

was not right for me it wasn't really

working I was always my virgin can I

couldn't get used to have like candy

bars before practices to get energy I

mean you know just you know just trying

to do whatever I could to but it was

before I booked a role called what was

the movie called 54 with Ryan Philippine

ed Campbell Mike Myers who's about

studio 54 in New York and I had to be

the shirtless bartender and I was in

decent shape but but not lean and just

kind of normal and the director said

listen these bartenders were you know

they they did a lot of things that made

them very lean they were super healthy

guys and and so I need you to lean out

and I was like okay so at that point I

did a little research and I discovered

the actions back and it was like this

this this is back in

like ladies 1996 maybe yeah that was

yeah very early stages for that yeah and

I and I I don't really have a new this

or that to say about that kids died but

I will say that once I started coming

out carbohydrates the probably was not

doing it in the healthiest way but I got

very very lean I had way more energy

I've always had like a like an AB like

an abdominal bloat to me that went away

and so that was my first sort of phase

into low carb that's when my dad started

to shift and I told my children and off

and on through the years would keep

coming back to what I would call just

eating low carbohydrate the best I could

not understanding the function really of

increasing healthy fats in there at the

same time right so I was you know it was

a little that educated but I could still

see so much benefit to and it's so

through my careers well I kind of get

into my recent health journey huh yeah

well I absolutely let's just go through

the evolution of it I mean the reality

is most people didn't know what they

were doing back in the 90s you know and

and now we've got more and more

information coming out and biohacking

and all kinds of stuff like that you've

really jumped into this but yeah I'd

love to hear you kind of your whole

evolution your whole story with it it's

it's a good point because back at that

time is when I met my wife in Venice and

I was I was aesthetically very you know

good but she said you're the

unhealthiest healthy-looking person I've

ever met 10 report like I was doing

things you know at the time ephedra was

was legal it was in things like

Hydroxycut I was just doing whatever I

had to do to create this aesthetic form

because of being on TV and on the role

of my children my shirt so I was like I

felt this pressure I established this

kind of bar of what I had to look

aesthetically and I was doing all sorts

of unhealthy ways to you know that's

that's really interesting because

there's a

there's a lot of talk in the media about

women and the pressure they have right

especially models and your wife as a

model and so the pressure they've had to

have a certain physique and most people

will think about the men as well like

like you and the things that sometimes a

lot of times men will do in order to

have that physique as well yeah I could

totally definitely I think it's it's an

unique set of circumstances that I was

in where I Russia but I did get myself

into that position where especially

being in the public eye that I know my

children was very popular my character

you know was pretty popular up there and

I would do these appearances and the

balls and sign autographs which I loved

but for some how this pattern somehow

like I had nothing to do with it the

pattern started kind of taking my shirt

off and flexing in front of the crowds

not taking myself on and stuff but after

a while I was like oh man I gotta keep

it up so that was really aesthetically

based now through the years had kids and

my diet would definitely be more all

over the place we were always pretty you

know getting good quality foods and

things but I I wasn't necessarily eating

for my like I was not thinking in that

room you know I wasn't eating for my

body in a way that I could tell was best

for my just you know just healthy this

without was it wasn't great for me like

the average 20 you know early thirty

year old right it's typically not until

somebody reaches mid 30s 40s that they

start to you know think through hey wow

I start I need to really sort of take

care of my body that's exactly right and

I was always managing to kind of keep

aesthetically like you know pretty good

but not but not feeling great Low Energy

definitely abdominal issue digestion

issues that that would manifest in you

know different ways but lots of like

distinction like a lower

and distension kind of all the small

intestine and stomach you know it was

yeah it just was sort of plaguing me I

just kind of managed it and I just

assumed it was my body type and whatever

you're gonna do like you know getting

older or made whatever but it led me

because I times so let's see no probably

five or six years ago now it led me to

really try to figure it out a couple of

times and I owe a big piece of the

puzzle I have to I have to mention here

is that I'm started developing acid

reflux like maybe 15 years ago and I

went to kind of like the best doctors

that I had access to in LA in New York

to help me out with that

gastroenterologist and they would

prescribe me anti-acids things like

nexium prevacid and I went through

different ones through the years I was

on those anti acid blocking medications

for I mean really non-stop for at least

10 years maybe a little longer and it

got to the point where I started meeting

more I said eating one in the morning

one at night so being on this medication

that in my mind was supposed to help me

with my medical issue that and and yet

over time the symptoms of my medical

issue were getting worse it did

logically make sense to me I was like I

don't understand if I'm taking

medication to help me why is everything

getting works like my distension was

worse my acid reflux was I couldn't go a

few hours I couldn't go a half a day

without taking I was really kind of

dependent on this and it didn't make

sense to me at all so I started doing

like you said that's what it really

began by going online and doing my own

research and finding this huge community

specifically known acid reflux where

they were saying that you can do a diet

and you can fix it with diet and it's

actually not too much acid in your

stomach but in a way it's too little

stomach it's right

excuse me too little acid which allows

the the bacteria tea and things to

ferment and your stomach creating the

letting me ask you know something along

those lines

yeah I'll jump in there and explain to

listener and then we'll go right back to

your story so normally your stomach acid

at rest is roughly around 3 to 3.5 pH

and for reference water is neutral at

7.00 pH and if you're anybody remembers

back to chemistry class we know it's

like it's a really big jump to go from 7

to 3.0 somewhere in that range and then

when we eat meat right especially meat

or really protein in general but

particularly meat we need to drop that

acid down to around 1.5 to 2 point twos

that's really energy demanding for our

body to get the acid from 3 to 3.5 down

to 1.5 to 2 point 2 in that range and so

we've got to produce enough stomach acid

in order to do that if we don't food can

just sit in our stomach and start to rot

and and ferment like you were talking

about and it slows the emptying from

this stomach into the small intestine

and so when you take an antacid right so

for a lot of people they they just

naturally have low stomach acid and you

know what's interesting Cameron is

people with blue eyes so I was talking

to a naturopath about this and this has

been in naturopathic medicine they've

talked about this for hundreds of years

now people with blue eyes are a lot

higher rate of low stomach acid right so

you've got blue eyes I've got blue eyes

my wife does right and so all of us and

I take HCl right my wife does as well

taking that extra stomach acid really

really helps and so but anyways

basically you know if we don't get

enough stomach acid food is just gonna

sit there and start to rot and putrefy

right and then that gas is going to end

up causing acid to jump up into the

esophagus and the esophagus can't handle

even 3 to 3.5 ph right that's too much

and I'll start to damage that tissue so

that's where supplementing with

something like a betaine HCl can really

help we're doing apple cider vinegar and

water or chewing on some bitters like

fennel seed or ginger right so just even

taking a little bit of ginger root like

like an inch of ginger root and chewing

on that before a meal can help start to

get your stomach acid produced right

actually activates part of your nervous

your parasympathetic nervous system

which turns on the digestive juices so

that can really help taking some deep

breaths before before we eat can really

help we're turning on the digestive

juices and of course you know you had a

busy a busy job and we all grew up in

the era of fast food meaning not just

the quality of food but like eating fast

right so that's you're not gonna be able

to produce the digestive juices you need

and there's so many people out there I

mean millions of people out there that

are suffering with acid reflux that are

not being treated properly they're being

given proton pump inhibitors which stop

the body's ability to produce acid so

they make it even worse

right they never actually get rid of the

underlying root cause and so that's the

big issue there and that's that's how

you were being treated and that's

exactly that makes perfect sense because

it was getting worse right so that's

exactly I remember going to my doctor so

once I did my research and then I went

to my gastroenterologist he's you know I

think he's one of the best in the Los

Angeles area

you know who knows but and I said to him

so what do you think about you know

adjusting my diet and doing it that way

and he said trying let me get this right

trying to heal acid reflux diet alone is

like trying to empty the ocean with a

bucket and I was like oh man I was so

pumped I remember that but I still so I

went alone because after he told me not

but eventually I did I know it's funny

you mentioned the ginger I started so I

cut out all my excuse me prevacid or

next year and I started supplementing as

per I was reading with HDL and I would

kind of do that little test to see how

much I use so I needed a lot of a co

before I even felt any kind of acidity

so it was like it was a simple post and

I was doing you know lemon juicer I was

doing a ginger baking my own ginger tea

really strong ginger tea on the stove

but also chew on it and do these within

three days of doing that I had no acid

reflux yeah so I and so I don't know

what exactly

my stomach but I'm sure it did it wasn't

great finally kind of sort of corrected

that and did you change your diet as

well is there anything that you're

eating that that you saw was

contributing cuz a lot of people also

notice something like possibly gluten

right eating gluten or dairy or

something like that they oftentimes a

food sensitivity can also trigger acid

reflux as well that's a huge point yeah

I went sort of to a low carbohydrate

Paleo diet so you know scale looker

paleo is how I was eating the processed

foods best quality that could find like

you say no gluten grains ulna and that

made a big difference to I'm sure it was

all sort of all the pieces of the puzzle

but the the symptoms went away

remarkably quickly I thought but through

over the years after that I still

noticed issues with my body with my gut

and digestion although my diet wasn't

really all that perfect through that

time either but just to the point where

it just didn't seem right I knew in my

heart that something wasn't right and I

thought there was something going on

with my small intestines and I kept

asking my my doctor at the time here in

Pasadena for an MRI just to get a scan

of my because I was convinced that

something was there and this went on for

a while and genuinely and kinda note he

didn't say no but he was like I really

don't think he meet him why don't we try

this

and let me try that and we tried

different things and nothing really

helped almost at all like supplements

and diet adjustments and and so it turns

out that eventually I did get the MRI

and it was from that a try that he was

correct by my you know my small

intestines my stomach was okay but they

found a tumor on my right kidney I had

kidney cancer you know cell carcinoma

and likely you'd be the the symptoms

that I was experiencing weren't directly

related to the situation but my heart

still knew I mean there was things like

my low my my white blood cell count was

low really low but it shouldn't be a

minute

and there were just other signs and

tests that I would be doing it didn't

make sense to me so I kind of persistent

got the MRI kind of in a sense in my

mind anyway we can talk more I got found

out it was cancer had surgery no chemo

no radiation this was when I bet you

yeah I mean literally within a week of

my surgery is when you came home yeah we

had been talking well before and we

scheduled the time for me to come on

home and family and then you found out I

think it was like a month or so before

cuz this was like three or four months

before that when we scheduled it man you

found out about a month before the show

aired that you had the cancer and then

of course you got the surgery right and

unfortunately we weren't able to make it

on the show but I came over your place

afterwards everybody watch this my

co-host and she told dr. Joffe she said

you like you said it's helped you so

much she told you yeah that's hilarious

yeah and she and Debby is great I really

enjoy doing the show with her so I was

gonna say so you got the surgery done

right and then how is that recovery

process in the grand scheme of things it

went you know really really well it was

and you know right there's like a week

later but yes the the recovery the

immediate recovery was slow of course it

was you know major surgery but I feel so

so much better with that sin for

whatever reason I guess maybe part of my

mind felt like you know I'm so careful

about the way I eat and I still got

cancer so you know maybe I'm I don't

need to stick you know to the strict

diet that I'm known for you know because

of that I didn't still didn't work very

well but

you know the doctors so you know people

say the doctors flat-out told me then

it's likely the fact that I was so

careful with the way maybe not all the

time I was so careful about the way they

likely prevented it most sugar low

carbohydrate prevented the cancer from

growing and spreading so it was it was

contained in my kidney and things that

it could go to and it was likely growing

slowly for around eight years I think

approximately yeah so my healthy

lifestyle did really in a sense saved my

life in many ways and even though after

the surgery I kind of was still eating

not great for my body and we that's when

we checked in and you kept trying to

encourage me and give me ideas and

things that would fall until finally in

the last really two months I've been

back on track

super low carbohydrate Kido like you

know like very very low and I feel

almost like I'm in my 20s again so much

energy my my body fat gotten leaner but

one of my goals is is not to count each

size because I'm on camera I don't to

get all you know I don't know I always

feel like super low carbohydrate it

forces you to get super lean and I'm

sure for some people you can adjust it

so that if that is your goal to lose a

lot of weight I'm sure that's a good way

to do it for me that's not my rule and I

was able to go super look our lives of

my students increase my strength and go

down and body fat and in my weight you

know Greta the scale is around the same

which is shocking to me so and but most

importantly feel great might might my

digestion is fantastic and doing the

intermittent fasting as well and just so

many benefits and I think more mental

clarity better sleep I wake up feeling

more energetic I'm still probably

drinking a little bit too much black

coffee but I'm working on

yeah and I know when we ran labs too we

also saw a high level of toxins right so

environmental toxins we found in very

very high levels in your system and so

you know you're as fit a person like you

you just look like you're super healthy

obviously look amazing I mean you're

what in your early 50s now right yeah

absolutely amazing like you know

best-looking early 50 year old man

you're gonna find and but yet you had

cancer and this is something that we all

need to realize is that we're being

exposed to toxins on a regular basis you

know you obviously were fit exercising

regularly and for you know the last

however many years you've been eating

healthy but you had this cumulative

toxic exposure and so that was certainly

a factor I know we did a lot of work on

detox to help basically get a lot of

this stuff out of the system I think

that's obviously played a big role and

and then also I know you were eating

even though you're eating really healthy

a lot of people don't realize this that

the average person is actually eating

something like six to ten meals a day

and they don't think about it because

they think meal is actually sitting down

and eating something right but if you

take a drink of kombucha okay you're

getting like 20 calories or something

like that enough to kind of shock your

insulin and increase your insulin levels

and so I know we had talked about hey

let's um let's come you know basically

compress that eating window and then you

know don't constantly snack throughout

the day you want to talk about that I

remember it's amazing because you go

through you know as let's say clinic

here in this case I'm going through

everything it was good eating really

healthy foods but it wasn't like

compressed times and that's important

because if you're constantly eating like

you're talking about snacking you're

constantly increasing insulin and

insulin tells the body to grow right and

so we get too much signal to grow that

can trigger cancer right and so go go

ahead go back to what you were saying

yes

fascinating when you told me that it was

the ultimate best motivation for me

probably for a lot of people to not to

not snack it was it wasn't even assumed

that I was hungry it's become my whole

life I mean childhood my whole life is

just a behavior it's just what I have

you know and I'm walking around in the

kitchen it's like Pavlov's dogs I'm in

the kitchen I just checked the pantry

and just have some macadamia nuts for

some you know some seaweed or whatever

it is like it was good stuff but my wife

you know it's just you gotta listen to

your partners everybody because she has

the same for years and years she's like

you've got to stop snacking and it's not

not because I was overweight

but just to give my digestion a break

here's a guy who died jest emissions

clearly and I wasn't taking a break

other than my which at the time was

about 16 hours everyday uh now I've got

into 18 hours pretty close to 17 18

hours and then I don't eat again until

my second meal so two meals a day as

Freder suggestion I never thought that I

could go through the day without

snacking and I have no desire to know

what's happening I don't know how it's

possible but I'm so grateful because

it's true it was almost like a chain you

know it was almost like I was trapped in

this well I went through that phase as

well back when I was a personal trainer

back in my early 20s I thought if I

don't eat if I don't have a protein

shake before I go to bed and then you

know like a big bowl of cereal or

something like that that I had in the

morning I would lose muscle right I kept

thinking that but what happens when we

continually suppress or continually

spike insulin it actually limits our

strength and our healing potential so by

compressing your eating window like

you're doing now two meals a day okay

and then your body responds really well

on a very low carb keto diet so he's

doing more of a carnivore approach we

will talk about that just a

and you had cycled through different

things I know like six months ago we

were talking and you were like yeah I'm

doing plant-based I'm doing you're like

I feel amazing but I have constant gasp

and I'm bloated all the time but other

than that my energy feels great yeah

exactly

but just you know taking out the

snacking and really compressing and you

it's not about eating less it's just

about eating less often

right so compressing that eating window

plays a big role with improving insulin

sensitivity and then when you go longer

periods of time without food your body

boosts up growth hormone and growth

hormone is really good for your immune

system right really strengthens your

immune system good for bone density good

for lean body tissue burning fat

building muscle it's kind of your

quintessential anti-aging hormone right

so you get a great improvement there you

also stimulate otology where the body

starts to break down and eat older

damaged cells so even if you're on a

ketogenic diet but you're eating every

three or four hours you are not gonna

stimulate Asaf adji because even if you

you know just take a spoonful of butter

you're still gonna get some level of

insulin release and enough to stop that

the body's own self-healing process this

is why it's important to compress that

eating window I recommend to two maybe

three meals a day most men can get away

with two sometimes women we've got to do

three but but snacking on a regular

basis not a good idea it's just so

incredibly helpful and like I said this

is really the first time in my life I

can remember where I am can I ask you a

question about so during my fast maybe

this is like an off-camera question do

you consider any oil the real that's a

really good question so technically it

does break it fast however because it's

so ketogenic you get little to no

insulin release so if you're gonna do

something c8 MCT oil is what you want to

do because it basically just turns right

into ketones well most people experience

when they do a little bit of c8 MCT oil

is they just actually it fast the

fasting part becomes easier

they're able to extend their fast longer

they feel more mentally clear more

productive during the fast so I don't

have a problem with that yeah but if you

were to put if you were to do it a

typical bulletproof coffee where you put

in the butter yeah butter will even

though it's just plain fat because it's

a longer chain fat it takes longer to

digest it's not quite as quick to turn

into ketones you will get more of an

insulin release which can inhibit that

autophagy got you okay great that's good

to know yeah you can experiment see how

you feel you know doing that versus not

doing it see if it's making a difference

for you

at the same time the exogenous ketones

are a good thing to do during faster and

that doesn't technically spike insulin

either correct I mean if it's just

straight exogenous ketones not a bad

idea either what I'd like to do is get

the body and it depends on the

individuals so if you're having a

relaxed morning I would just do the fast

but if you've got you know if you got a

really perform that morning and you're

not quite sure if you know you're gonna

be able to perform at your best if

you're in your fasting if you're fasting

then take some exogenous ketones or c8

MCT oil does that make sense yeah

perfect just use it if you feel like you

might be great exactly because it can

provide that performance benefit whether

it inhibits Auto Fujii you know because

both of those have some level of

calories in them there's gonna be some

compromise when it comes to auto Fujii

you know so you gotta weigh it out do I

get enough performance benefits you know

from this is it is it really moving the

needle for me or or is it something I

can you know I'm not really noticing the

benefit from and I don't really need to

use it so I get the full benefits of the

auto fatigue when I find it for me for

me it's a it's a it's a pretty moderate

increase in benefit it's not it's not a

for me at all

yeah yeah so I think that's probably the

biggest thing to measure out right cuz

and that's really where I want to go

next also is let's talk about you know

kind of your normal schedule now right

now as we're doing this interview we're

quarantined right

and so this this interview will be

coming out in a few in a few months but

right now it's it's what April 23rd or

something like that

and so we're all quarantined at this

point and so your schedule is a little

bit different you don't have your home

and family is it's not showing right now

but what's your normal schedule like

just so because a lot of people are

interested in what that looks like for

an actor so yeah I be since I've started

in in the hosting world and co-host at

home family so how many families are

home our Channel two hours every day

Monday to Friday and we shoot that we

shoot that Monday to Friday now when I

go off and do homework movies I'll take

a look leave of absence from hoping Finn

we do the whole location somewhere but

basically my daily schedule is so like I

feel so grateful to be in this

entertainment industry and half like

somewhat of a regular schedule it's

pretty cool I will wake up many

different I'll get up early early for me

around 5:00 a.m. and I'll have my quiet

time in the morning so I do a little

meditation and I do yoga get the body

moving a little bit and I'll have some

black coffee that's where that comes in

and obviously the first thing I do is

have big a big old glass of water and

and then so as that happens all spent

you know people in the house they're

usually wake up to 6:30 or so maybe even

6:45 and still have a good long time in

the morning to myself

or I can do my my kind of spiritual

practice or some of it and enjoy my long

time and get ready for the day to I read

my scripts and get ready for the day as

well my scripts being on our show we

have eleven kind of what we call

segments or eleven no sections of the

show they could be interviews with

guests like dr. chakras we could be in

the kitchen making food we do three

kitchen sinks recipes labels we have

DIYs made crafts things like that so

like prepared for the day different

interviews and things like that and then

I leave early for work usually around

7:45

8 I get to work and we do on the ship

but as soon as you get out of the car

the Universal Studios that's like kind

of like obviously the amusement park

down the hill is the really Universal

Studios lot you can take a tour to see

the different stages and things like

that that's where our our stage is it's

actually a house that it looks like a

house but it's designed to be a studio

and as soon as we get out of the car at

home and family it's on so that's it's a

very interesting dynamic that I don't

totally understand the chemistry how it

affects the body but you're really like

you're on your like adrenal er focused

moment you get out we got the script to

read we start tweaking we start getting

hair makeup go to wardrobe people are

coming at you from all directions

segments if not more every day where the

producers are tweaking and coming to you

and asking as you're trying to get ready

and then you know all of this happens

right away start shooting usually 10:00

10:30

sometimes as late as 11:00 that's always

preceptor so you know what time we start

shooting and once we start shooting then

you're really focused around the way I

describe it is imagine having to present

in front of a huge audience of thousands

of people every day and you have to be

the expert and you have to know

everything that you're presenting and

the presentation is going to be between

three and four hours every day and you

get the information for that

presentation at 8:30 yeah start at 8:30

to get ready to be on and to engage and

to have everybody kind of listening you

have to know your stuff and that happens

every single day I hear people that say

I had a presentation I'm exhausted I'm

like yeah it's sort of sort of how we

roll each and every day now is that as

you kind of get into rhythm there's some

there's some aspects where we can take a

little breather and you know there's

some things that come more naturally to

others or some where you really have to

mentally focus and beyond usually the

interviews somebody's making the effort

to come on the show I really want to

know myself I want to be prepared

questions as much research as I can so

that takes a lot more of like being on

whereas if I'm in a segment with one of

what we call our family members or

supporting family members that come in

with the other wives you cross but I

think that I think it's pretty stressful

on my system yeah your mental athlete

absolutely like you're it's like you

know going in and you're doing your

you're playing a soccer match or a

basketball match just you're not moving

your body in the same way physically but

mentally you've got to be really quick

to react you've got to really know your

stuff you got a mean performances and

just public speaking in general I know

you don't really have an issue with

public speaking but for a lot of people

that alone is is you know one of the

largest fears in our society and then

you know you you are constantly doing

different scenes so you got to really be

sharp and you don't have a whole lot of

time to take in information and process

it and respond to it so you know it's a

good mental challenge it's for sure

young people ask me what's easier for

close like it's not even it's not even

remotely close so even on the show we

shoot a hundred twenty pages a day but

maybe you're in maybe let's say an

average day would be about twenty pages

of backlog sometimes you know more than

that sometimes less than that but even

that is is like a spa treatment compared

to what we do in the homework movies to

doing eight or nine pages a day you're

on set 15 hours as long days but it has

a very very different effect on my

ability for sure like it's it's you know

you're trying to relax and do a

character you try to just you try to be

you don't have to be on damage and again

try to beat you're just like it's like

in a sense of version of yourself which

requires a lot less kind of adrenal

focus all right it's in for me that is

far far less toxic I don't know but

easier harder but less tax yeah and what

makes home and family so good is

that you guys are on right you and

Debbie are on like you guys bring energy

and that's what attracts everybody to it

so so you've got you know that you can't

have a day off right from that

perspective when when the show goes on

you got to be on is that really nailing

your stuff they know it when you don't

have like you know we're kind of live to

tape but if you really sort of messed up

so stop down and start again

but you know they can tell everybody's

great and the good thing about this I've

been on sets were you that pressure of

messing out the maybe start sweating and

then everybody's staring at you you know

it's not it's you know working at home

Marcus it's one of them I think it's my

favorite job and ever had in my whole

life because it's the most authentic do

Who I am as a person I mean all we do

there the whole channel is the movies

family try to spread you know positivity

you know virtuous ideas and thoughts and

try to make people feel good and be

happy it's supposed to be like a real

positive escape in our world and you

know I love being part of that yeah

that's so good

and then you uh you had told me that

you're doing Entertainment Tonight as

well and are you still doing that you

like occasionally do do shows or how

does that was occasionally occasionally

special interviews oh btw for about four

years as well as that we can host and

also we can cause and also a regular

correspondent in Friday's like on the

show today and that was also very

draining a different way there's a lot

of travel traveling all around the world

to interview the biggest stars that you

could ever think of on sets and do

movies and and sort of the cool factor

of that show had the highest cool factor

yeah I didn't had the high school factor

that it was like on paper it doesn't get

a whole lot better than that like it was

pretty neat with that said there were

some challenges that come with that and

that is being away from the family very

very difficult to eat the way I like to

eat and to stay as active as I do when

with one airline one year I had two

hundred twelve thousand miles only on

one airline yeah in one 12-month period

that's a lot of travel I gotta go to New

Zealand and then come back half a day

and then go to London like it was it was

like but it was merry

you know I got to be a lot of my

childhood heroes and I you know for

instance the new Han Solo interviewing

the new Han Solo and in that interview

we had arranged that Harrison Ford and

Ron Howard be coming through the back

and surprise the new Han Solo the old

Star Wars fan growing up I loved sort of

a big star Wars fan growing up oh yeah

that's beauty that's a good idea to keep

track of them because it can it can be

tough to keep track of what comes after

what right yeah oh yeah I grew up I mean

Return of the Jedi was my favorite movie

until um let's see Return of the Jedi I

liked what was it Braveheart was amazing

of course Robin Hood right the kind of

the original Robin Hood those amazing

movies right so yeah and so you were

talking about all that traveling to that

not alone people don't realize this but

when you are flying in a plane you're

getting a level of radiation and so if

you're flying that often that's also a

cancer risk factor believe it or not

what is it about what is it about being

there's a higher level of radiation

that's you're being exposed to when you

go up in altitude like that right just

being up and altitude like that you're

getting a higher level of it plus like

you were talking about it's harder to

eat right so you're getting you know

you're drinking out of plastic bottles

and things like that so you're getting

phalates no kind

stuff so that's gonna increase toxin

exposure so a lot of people realize

there's a lot of occupational hazards to

position you know professions that force

you to have to travel a lot right

there's a lot more hazards pilots have

higher rates of heart disease and cancer

then you know normal people their age

right partly is sitting for long periods

of time just like in one you know caught

you know the cockpit really tight area I

think they're opening those up where

they can kind of get up and stretch a

little bit but a lot of times they're

just sitting plus when you travel I mean

just think about it you're traveling to

London I mean your other than like

getting up to go to the bathroom you're

pretty sedentary for quite a while right

yeah and so that's just all those things

are hazards that can kind of build up

over time you know as far as like you

were talking about your your health

history with with getting that cancer

you know these are all factors right as

a doctor I'm always thinking through

okay what are all these factors that are

going into this and that was a factor as

well so are you no longer doing that

position then attainment tonight yes

obviously was boring and truthfully they

they needed someone that was going to be

more committed to the show as well so we

still keep in touch and our relationship

yeah absolutely well let's talk about

your the diet that you're following now

you said obviously once you dialed down

the carbs right and this I always so

people you know there's kind of a bell

curve some people do better with more

plants some people do better with kind

of a good mixture good balance of plants

and animal products and some people do a

lot better with pretty much just mostly

all animal products right and that

carnivore diet has really picked up

popularity a lot of people are seeing

really good results with that and let's

talk about how that how you make that

switch well like you mentioned I think

it was after my surgery open I tried to

go

vegan like almost vegan for sure

plant-based but almost full full vegan

as best I could and I'm not knocking at

all and there were some benefits to it I

definitely had a couple benefits visitor

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just didn't work for me digestion was I

was very bloated gassy distended and I

thought it was going to kind of settle

in I just never did and then after the

holidays I just made that stroller shift

like here to your point really just

reading about more but I mean I hate to

do employment but reading more about

your book had the opportunity to read of

course like you know I was Kido for I

don't know probably a year off and on

the benefits of it but still like I said

moderate carbohydrate you know and when

I really went almost zero carbs like you

say almost eating just very good call

grass-fed grass-finished pasture-raised

animal products in really minimizing the

plants plants just don't seem to work

well with me I'm sure there's some that

do better than others I haven't quite

experimented and figure it out which

ones do I seem to feel like sweet

potatoes for instance do quite well yeah

but most most of the other ones don't

strawberries I get over strawberry

strawberries now but I just feel amazing

I also you know I I try to limit my nuts

and seeds but I'll have macadamia nuts

for whatever reason they seem to be

easier on my body than some of the other

nuts and seeds or pumpkin seeds to work

pretty well yeah but since doing that so

we're nothing like I say it's go 18

hours including my sleep and then I mean

I basically want to be you I guess

trying to have my first meal every day

and I try to have it basically as much

as I can eat really yeah you know in the

form of grass-fed grass-finished meat

products that's probably like 80% or 85%

of actual protein and then I might have

grass-fed cheese a lot of pasteurized

eggs and make a little meal like that

and may have some macadamia nuts or some

strawberries there's a little bit of a

desert feel but often not often not even

needed and yes some lemon juice

sometimes and obviously also

incorporating at the cooking process

will have MCT oil yeah but in the

cooking process they'll have maybe some

avocado oil coconut oil sometimes some

olive oil of course things like that so

not totally animal-based but largely and

like I say I I was telling you this

earlier but I almost feel like I'm I'm

taking some sort of steroids like I feel

pumped like I can't imagine eating

almost zero car and and feeling like

I'll do a set of push-ups so my daily

routine workout lies as I do at least a

hundred push-ups

mm-hmm I do

100 squats bodyweight squats or jump

squats there's bodyweight I'll do some

some ab work and then every other day

I'll do some pull-ups and I honestly

have to do one set of something I feel

like that feeling that you go to the gym

for whatever reason maybe it's the

production oh but man it does not feel

like I'm eating low carb like as far as

the effect on my muscles and my strength

I feel pumped which is very confusing to

me in many ways ya know we were taught

that we needed two carbs right to feel

pumped

but your body now is very good at

sparing glycogen or stored sugar in your

muscle cells and driving water in there

and then you have the higher level of

human growth hormone right because

you're fasting you're in keto you're

spending a lot of time in ketosis and

because of that when you do that you're

gonna get a greater anabolic effect

right meaning that you know in general

human growth hormone is going to help

your body stimulate Auto Fujii right

when you're when you're fasting but when

you it's almost like like like taking a

slinky and cocking a slinky so the

slinky doesn't move until you take your

hand off of it right but when you

it now you have all this potential

energy in it that then explodes right

once you take your hand off of it it

jumps up to that you know the next step

it's kind of the same thing when you are

following some sort of you know a

low-carb acute when your embodies in

ketosis so you're doing intermittent

fasting like that you your slinky

er your ability to build lean body

tissue and then when you start to do the

training and then you follow that up

with you know good high quality food

high quality protein now you get that

extra level of strength and development

right and that's basically what's

happening wow that's a great analogy

definitely feels like that sometimes it

can be a little tricky to get started

yeah not often but sometimes it does oh

man once it kicks in it's like I can't

stop again it's such a it's such a lot

like there's definitely something like

that

in my body during the workouts that

fight-or-flight human growth like I just

feel like you know here we go let's keep

going like it's an amazing it's an

amazing difference yeah and now your

body's very metabolically flexible also

where when you're at rest it's very good

at burning fat for fuel but then when

you get started with exercise because

when you're working out intensely you

can't use you can't you can't produce

enough energy from fact because you need

oxygen for fats when you're breathing

hard and breathing heavy you need to

burn sugar during that period of time

your body is very good at switching from

burning fat to now burning sugar when

you're in that period where you're

exercising and then when you're finished

going back to burning fat for fuel so

the sugar your body stores sugar in your

liver and in your muscles okay it's

gonna store something around you know

400 grams actually of sugar right in

those areas almost a day's worth of

sugar in your muscles and in your liver

now if you're on a ketogenic diet

sometimes that will be a little bit less

because your body says I don't need

quite as much sugar storage because it's

good at burning fat between meals but

you have a lot of sugar storage in your

muscles in your liver and the reason why

the body does that is for a time of

famine you need to be able to like our

ancestors sometimes would go days

without food because they didn't kill

anything right or they couldn't find any

food they couldn't get weak and lazy

right like they in order to kill an

animal right which you know neither of

us I don't know if you've had a

opportunity I never have right but I

would imagine in the wild right you need

a lot of energy right to be able to

track something down and whatnot you

need your sympathetic nervous system

elevate it your heart rate goes up right

hunters will talk about you know their

heart rate goes all this kind of stuff

when they're getting ready to kill

something so it's kind of the same thing

you need to be able to have fight or

flight right even in a fasted state or

let's say you're fasting and you know

predators chasing you or whatever it was

that our ancestors had to deal with our

body is really good at conserving that

stored sugar it wants to keep it in

there for a survival for something

related to survival

now when we start doing push-ups and

pull-ups the body doesn't really know if

we are running away from a predator you

know trying to climb a tree or something

like that or we're just exercising

because we want to be fit you know the

party doesn't know the difference it

just knows hey I've got a demand here

that I need to address and then if we're

doing that in a regular basis the body

says I've got to adapt so I can be I

need to be stronger faster quicker right

because for whatever reason I'm facing

these you know sort of scenarios where

I've got to be able to perform at this

high level and so it adapts to that and

that and so you get really good at

storing that sugar and only using it

when you you know when you need it when

you when you turn that how does the body

really yeah so even from fat so when we

look at fat you have something your body

creates called a triglyceride the

backbone of that is glycerol right and

so it can take lists roll and convert it

actually into glucose or stored sugar

glycogen right so the body no body has

all these built-in mechanisms even if

you're on a hundred percent fat diet

right which of course you're not it can

do that now it can also take protein and

turn it into sugar as well called

gluconeogenesis where you take protein

amino acids turn that into glucose as

well so you know if you're on this sort

of diet your body is going to it's going

to create the amount of sugar that it

needs and nothing more you know and

that's one of the things when we're on a

higher carb diet too much sugar is toxic

so the body tries to drive it into the

cells and use it for energy when you're

on a very low carb diet the body says

okay well I don't I don't really I'm not

really getting that much carbohydrate so

I'll actually make a little bit just so

I have enough glucose right for those

certain circumstances which is more

advantageous and that's very anti-aging

just like you've been reading in my book

right who introduces the aging effects

right reduces oxidation and rusting in

our body and inflammation and all this

kind of stuff so you know really really

good and then for some individuals they

do better on a higher protein diet and

so you're getting a higher amount of

protein and I actually do better on a

higher protein diet - I probably consume

somewhere around

a gram of protein per per gram of body

weight on a typical eating day right and

you're probably doing something similar

as well and that's also can be very

conducive especially keeping insulin

down but then also getting that protein

getting and making up the rest of the

calories with the fat will be very

conducive to a healthy lean body tissue

development getting good strength it's

so great to know I mean I it's good to

hear it but then when you hear it and

it's aligned with one's experience it's

very reassuring and it's very like

encouraging so like is that everything

you're saying makes perfect sense to me

you know because I'm listening to you

but also in my own experience so it's

that's great to hear

yeah absolutely so really really good

stuff and we'll get ready to finish up

here but uh yeah I know that in the

beginning when I first started working

with you we really focused all on

detoxification right yeah some people

are worried about that some people feel

like you're gonna have you know a bad

experience or they're gonna you know sit

on the on the toilet all day long how

was your experience as we started to add

in some binders some things to help

support kidney and liver detoxification

what was your experience like with all

those yeah I feel I mean a lot of my

experience with it is just a sense of

peace of mind knowing that I'm helping

to kind of take somebody I don't like my

tonsils were really quite high so like

when I take the activated charcoal in

between meals or I'm going to take some

of the binders you know it gives me a

lot of peace of mind knowing and but as

far as you know I'll go through bouts

and having diarrhea and things like that

being in the toilet but for me it's

usually related to like just having

someone I can tell anywhere having a

meal which is way too much fats but I

can't quite hand animal when I would I

get that kind of more under control I

feel like everything works together

really well I noticed that so speaking

of getting the toxins out I'm assuming

that part of the tummy to be high high

level toxins in my body or one of the

side effects is

aches and pains so that's something that

I hadn't talked about yet but I

definitely experienced me aches

headaches lower back a hands those are

the main ones I think I'm lesson

forgetting something but the weird ones

were really hips like it have really

really sore my hip flexors were just

getting really really sore toward easily

and my knees too and that has definitely

improved since taking the binders and

riyo detox the detoxification hasn't

gone away completely but I'm you know

being patient but it's much much better

yeah that's that's huge and chronic pain

chronic joint pain especially when it's

multiple joints is a definite sign of

inflammation just overall in the body

and a lot of times some level of silent

autoimmunity right so a lot of times we

have autoimmunity to our connective

tissue and when you're noticing joint

pain in a lot of different joints not

just maybe like you know a previous

injury that you had the multiple

different joints throughout the body

oftentimes the sign of the underlying

kind of autoimmune style can condition

that's taking place and toxins are known

to really drive up autoimmunity in the

body right because the body says hey

these unwanted toxins are in the system

and you know we need to get rid of them

right so it starts to try to ramp up the

immune system to try to attack that so I

think all that's going down which is

really improving plus the fact that

you're getting less fermentation and so

one of the reasons why you've done so

well on this sort of diet is your your

body right now I'm similar to this to

our gastrointestinal system is tends to

over ferment a little bit right and

everybody's a little bit different so

meat is not as fermentable right and the

lot of the high fiber types of foods and

the higher fodmap foods which you know

are all healthy foods to a degree like

broccoli and cauliflower and things like

that but those can ferment for some

people they're really healthy because

they help support the great prebiotics

or support the good back

Syria a lot of good health benefits to

them but for other people they can

actually cause more inflammation in the

system and so for you you've noticed big

improvements you know not utilizing a

lot of those yeah it's such an

interesting point to to show that we're

all so different so many ways I mean

like one of the things that people love

and you know garlic and onions are

anyways supposed to be so good for so

many people for me and for my bacterial

microbiome I guess they were the most

painful for my god like I get so

distended and start working like crazy

you know and yet they're obviously very

healthy for so many different people but

that's a great example yeah yeah totally

well this is the exactly bio individual

uniqueness in a sense right we're all

bio individual people right we have our

own unique bio biology right and

physiology and so what's cool is that

you've really found a diet approach that

works great for you and that you're able

to thrive off of and get all the

benefits that you want and feel great

and like you said you're not enslaved to

constantly snacking constantly eating

but you feel satiated throughout the day

you're able to have to have the lean

body tissue that you want the body type

that you want and the food tastes great

I know you get a lot of your meat

products from us wellness meats which is

a fantastic brand we'll have a link

below you guys can check that out but us

wellness needs is one of those they

pretty much have like every kind of meat

that you can imagine like almost every

cut and it's all grass-fed organic and

grass finish like you mentioned where

you know with cattle a lot of times they

grain finish them so they start them on

grass and then they give them grains

last 90 days to make them fatter but

that reduces your healthy fatty acids

your omega-3s reduces the amount of

antioxidants that are in there and you

know the meat is not quite as healthy

and so a good thing about us wellness

meats is grass-fed grass-finished and

what are some of your favorite things

that you like to get from us well I love

their rib eyes beef tenderloin their New

York Strip but you know one of the

things that u.s. we also they have which

is very tough to find

my experience anyway grass-fed Swiss

cheese yeah the fine grass-fed shedder

I'm a big fan of Swiss cheese and so

they have a really great grass-fed baby

Swiss that's super super yummy they also

have a great grass-fed butter but it's

ceylon yeah super good but as far as

that for meats go I like to experiment

so even just recently got a flank steak

because Vanessa wants to make a flank

steak

I got top sirloin the ribeye I also love

the kind of the balance between the

protein of the fat and a good yeah

ribeye is great because exactly it's

like a one-to-one fat to protein ratio

which because fat has nine calories

protein has four calories per gram it's

roughly something along the lines of

like it's like sixty is 65% by the

calories coming from fat thirty-five to

forty percent coming from protein right

if you cook it in you know some sort of

a healthy fat at the bottom you might

even get a little bit more fat that's a

great ratio to have ribeye it's just

they taste amazing as well and then

you're also a fan of the Paleo Valley

beef sticks right yeah beef sticks

that's really I mean that just is

incredibly rich I can almost like you

almost taste that the collagen or the

gelatin in there which I appreciate or

in complex anything like I do you know

the great quality of food products but I

just feel better having some organ meats

in there I just can't quite just doesn't

go with my power

yeah their organ complex it's like yep

which is really good we we just recently

had beef liver and

actually the way my mom actually had

prepared it and she did a great job on

it believe it or not but yeah liver is

so gamy right it's really you really

need to marinate it and there's kind of

an art to cooking it because it's very

very gamey and it's I mean you compare

that to a ribeye and the flavor of the

ribeye it's like why would you ever want

to eat the liver the nutrients are so

good right the might the mitochondrial

support nutrients that are in there and

that's why I told you the organ complex

is great because it really balances it

out so we're getting a lot of our amino

acids from muscle meat we want to

balance it out with the kind of amino

acids we get from cartilage like bone

broth for example or collagen protein

and then also the nutrients that we get

from the organs and this is really how

our ancestors did it they would eat the

entire animal you know they cook the

bones all that kind of stuff they

wouldn't just eat the ribeye and that's

it right so so this is more ancestral

and that's kind of you know what we

focus on here in the podcast ancestral

health and that's that's what you're

doing as far as getting all those things

so really good stuff we're a huge fan of

paleo Valley their sponsor of our

podcast here so we love the folks over

there at paleo Valley really high

quality stuff and us wellness meats as

well really high quality stuff and

that's key also you know remember we

talked about with Cameron about his

toxic load right he had a really high

toxic load and that was a definite

contributing factor to him developing

cancer right healthy people in general

don't don't develop cancer so he looked

healthy on the outside but on the inside

he had a high toxic load and so by

consuming grass-fed grass-finished

products those animal products are very

low they have very low toxic loads and

so he's consuming foods and that's one

of the big keys when it comes to

reducing our toxic load is to not just

not consume as much right breathe

cleaner air drink cleaner water eat

cleaner food and so he's doing that

obviously with the grass-fed

grass-finished animal products and I

know you also implemented the hydrogen

water as well right so you got the

hydrogen water in your in your house we

have a filter

the problems last four or five months so

um I also will help with the

detoxification

yes helps with detoxification molecular

hydrogen actually is really powerful for

reducing oxidative stress in the body

and oxidative stress is basically what

toxins will cause so it's helping

neutralize damage that can be done by

toxins in our system right so absolutely

and then water in general I'm just

hydrating your body well is one of the

best ways I mean it's a necessary way

you can't detox without hydrating your

body well so yeah so that's really

important and then when you add but if

you get like a reverse osmosis or just

some sort of good water filter berkey

water filters that's gonna help you

detox the benefit of the hydrogen is the

its effect on the oxidative stress level

so that really lowers oxidative stress

and at the deep cellular level increased

oxidative stress is what accelerates the

aging process increases pain like you

were talking about in our body and as a

major factor when it comes to increasing

cancer growth in the system so well

there you go so I'm glad you also you

also you know I think after I wonder

without to being honest to do so I got

an EMF might pack on my body every day

we're surrounded by satellite dishes and

things you know that's my world that I

work in then you came in where's I mean

it's you're in LA you're in a big city

and I'm sure people can relate it

everywhere with Wi-Fi by GE and

everything else around if you help me

understand the toxicity of the MF

pollution is the key products that Qi

products that you encourage me to get

one for the house yeah I've got a little

tower for work and I've got the little

individual ones that I keep on just in

general yeah absolutely electromagnetic

frequencies are basically a stressor on

our body that's there all the time so

our body is used to certain

electromagnetic frequencies such as the

earth I mean

you think about like you know you live

in LA so if you were to go to the beach

and walk on the beach you're getting a

very healthy electromagnetic frequency

it's one of the reasons why people feel

so good after a beach walk is they

neutralize their electromagnetic

frequency and we can do that by

grounding by going out bare feet or you

know like rubber soles block the Earth's

natural electromagnetic frequency but

the Earth's electromagnetic frequency is

very healing and supported for our body

so going out barefoot on your grass dirt

sand you know different things like that

very healthy and healing for the body

our ancestors were in touch with the

electromagnetic frequency of the earth

you know since the beginning of mankind

so we've adapted to it all the EMFs that

are coming from satellites our cell

phones all these types of things are

very new right we haven't had a chance

takes a long time for us as a species to

adapt to these sort of stressors so the

chronic exposure can cause a lot of

different issues and cause an increase

in oxidative stress and you know it's

not something we can necessarily escape

from completely however there are

devices like the key device which

releases our charged water molecules you

can't actually see them but it releases

charge water molecules and cousin

they've had some some different studies

that have shown that it dramatically

reduces the electro matic magnetic susi

electromagnetic stress that somebody is

under and improves their sympathetic to

parasympathetic balance or what we call

their heart rate variability right and

so heart rate variability is actually

the beat to beat variability between our

heart between our heartbeats so we

should have like a staggered rhythm in

our heart so even though it might be

like 60 beats per minute the actual time

between each beat should actually be

alternating okay like it shouldn't be a

monotone and that's a sign of good

parasympathetic tone if we're in

sympathetic dominance or fight-or-flight

we can't heal we actually want to have

good what we call good parasympathetic

tone

so the key device by releasing this

charged water it almost acts like a like

a protective blanket over your home

right so I know the device

you have is like I think it's like 3000

square-feet I can't remember exactly how

much it covers but it's like a

protective blanket so your whole family

is benefiting from that and the EMFs

that you're being exposed to like I got

my cell phone right here

you know we've got towers all around us

and things like that it's all being

neutralized right it's your whole family

benefits from that and I you know that's

that's a huge thing when it comes to

chronic disease is the chronic exposures

right like where are we spending our

most the most amount of our time that's

where we should be focused on trying to

reduce our EMF exposure and that's what

you've done with your home as well and

yeah great company we'll link to them

synergy science they provide the

hydrogen water as well as the key device

that Cameron's using as well so yeah

really good stuff well Cameron this has

been a fantastic interview really have

enjoyed it

any last words of inspiration for

audience oh well thank you for having me

at the podcast I've enjoyed it as well I

guess I would just say I mean I guess

it's sort of what I've been gonna roll

in the last several years and how it's

in many ways has helped me tremendously

and that is just to be your best

advocate for your own health to really

pay attention really pay attention to

your body listen to it you just you know

when you eat something and it has a

certain reaction it means something it's

trying to tell you something ever just

ignoring all these signs and symptoms

for so long and then when I started to

pay attention I just I feel like a

different person so I guess I'll just

end with that ya know that's amazing and

so Cameron the best place for audience

to reach you pull your Instagram right

camera Mathieson on Instagram yeah

Instagram at Cameron Mathison is the

best place definitely yeah homework

channel of course yeah so definitely

check him out Hallmark Channel home and

family really really great show check

that out for sure follow him on

Instagram as well he's always posting

things with his family different things

he's doing on the set and golfing

adventures and skis go boarding

adventures as well right that's right

that's right

once we're out of this quarantine you

got it absolutely well so go ahead and

check out Cameron guys and remember

you're more valuable than you think you

are so start taking action to improve

your health and allow your body to do

what it was created to do which is heal

and repair and allow you to thrive we'll

see you guys on a future podcast be

blessed