Published June 5, 2023, 2:20 p.m. by Violet Harris
food As medicine is a documentary film that follows the growing movement of using food to heal chronic illness and disease.
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so i'm an academic internal medicine
dac so i'm a professor of medicine at
the university of iowa
and i absolutely believe in science
in drugs and technology
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when i was diagnosed with relapsing
remitting multiple sclerosis in 2000
i sought out the best ms center in the
cleveland clinic
saw their best people took the newest
drugs and treated my disease very
aggressively
still within three years i had converted
from relapsing remitting to progressive
and it was very apparent that i was
headed towards becoming bedridden and
quite possibly demented by my illness
and
i redesign my diet
the magic begins
within three months my fatigue is gone
my brain fog is gone
i can stop modafinil or pro vigil in six
months i'm walking around without my
walking sticks or canes i no longer need
my tilt recline wheelchair in nine
months i bike around the block for the
first time in 12 months i do a 18 mile
bike ride with my family
this really changes how i understand
disease and health
and i'm discovering that people are
responding really very very well
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chronic disease and autoimmune disease
has reached epidemic proportions
by some estimates autoimmune disease
affects about one in five when you add
in other chronic illnesses about 75
percent of us are unhealthy
and that's not the way it's supposed to
be
we're clearly in a epidemic because the
quality of our diets is steadily
declining
these are day-to-day hour-to-hour
diseases that create a serious burden on
individuals and families so
i think we're all having a different
level of motivation
at this point to do something different
the media chooses to
look at these feared outbreaks on other
continents when really we should be
screaming from the rooftop that hey
chronic diseases are on the rise and yet
we have the ability to change that
if you
look at cdc data
you will find that the health of
americans has been worsening over the
last 20 years
and i think because the primary driver
is diet it's also the way in which we
need to
find a way out
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yeah the inspiration is the theme of
this year's tedx mount hood is the road
less traveled which is what we're
talking about is how do we go to new
places that we've never seen before so
i'm sabina and i live in portland and
this is my studio i'm an artist i make
installations and paintings i also teach
at portland state in the art department
i turned 40 this year in august and i
got
what they call ultra colitis the lower
left side of my colon 50 feet so it was
pretty mild but mild is like a relative
germ
when you've sort of lived your life
carefree and all of a sudden you're
running to the bathroom
and having bleeding and stuff like that
so a lot of my work is about taking
things that have symbols of conflict and
you know transforming them the idea of
transformative
power of beauty and how do we connect
past that
it really gets to you after a while and
i think that a lot of people don't
realize i didn't realize what i was
doing to my own body
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my famous trick what's my famous drink
try to make it knock down
i'm adam and i live in tigard oregon and
i'm 31 years old
and i live here with my wife and i have
two boys
and i work as a
site manager for intel
with our fridge here so these things
here
my older sister lives with us and
she drinks these kind of things we don't
normally drink these kind of things but
um
yeah we'll have like juice probably
a much higher intake of juice than
than we should be having
our vegetable drawer is usually pretty
light
in this context hopefully that will
change
i've always been
reasonably healthy i've
gone back and forth between
like a higher weight and a lower weight
you know my cholesterol is
kind of low on the good cholesterol and
high on the bad cholesterol blood
pressure is in
is
in control with medication and
most recently when i had my last weight
gain i developed
gastro reflux you know
acid reflux and
pvac's you know premature ventricular
contractions with my heart which are
kind of hereditary but
they've been very much exacerbated
since you know i had a weight gain
five days you could have a new stomach
lining
it's always trying to rebuild itself
my name is amanda and i'm a nanny and i
live in bend oregon
i consider myself a pretty healthy eater
um
just already i've always been a pretty
healthy eater that's why it's so
frustrating that
this happened to me
i
was
diagnosed with rheumatoid arthritis
about
four years ago so most of my pain is in
my wrists
and my ankle
and
wrists i'm very limited in
in activities
simple activities like yoga i was a huge
yoga person and now i can't put any
weight on my wrists
being a nanny i have to be really picky
about
my family is about the ages because i i
am unable to it's hard for me to
pick up kids because my wrists um they
don't bend
really very far anymore and it's funny
you wouldn't think you'd need your
wrists to hold a child but
you really do
um so it's it's kind of affecting my my
work
um recently about two and a half months
ago i started actimra
which is also biologic um and that's an
injection i give myself once a week
it's pretty scary looking
it's it's working ish
the inflammation levels are back down to
normal
everything looks good on paper
um according to the rheumatologist but
um i'm feeling a little bit better
but definitely not 100 i still have a
lot of pain
after hearing a lot of success stories
um
i am gonna give it a try and i'm gonna
really put my all into it because it's
kind of like my last
ditch effort that one's called crater
but then there's all this plant life
so when i first got diagnosed i
basically ignored
you know my body for the first two
months and i was like i'm this is not
happening you know i was having bleeding
and then finally i got really frustrated
and i was like looking for answers
and
then i found this diet
even besides the medications like i want
to be i want to be a good role model for
my boys
for me i'm starting to realize more and
more that it's it's an investment that
you have to make or else you end up with
with this right
i think
if i were able to be well again i would
be i would never take anything for
granted again
because
that's just
that's all i want it's all i want out of
anything in the world it's i want to
feel better i want this to go away
i want to be the old me back when i
did take everything for granted
the conventional approach for chronic
disease
is to diagnose and then immediately
treat with the medication
and so
we also
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compartmentalize diseases so you treat
by organ systems so
as people accumulate more and more
chronic diseases they have more and more
physicians on more and more different
drugs
it turns out that among people in the
medical world
there's not a long tradition of
appreciating nutrition
most medical schools have not included
it to any great degree in their
curriculum
in terms of the conventional
medical model conventional physicians
aren't trained in nutrition
they have so much other education that
they focus on most medical doctors
receive four hours or less in nutrition
the traditional nutrition information
that has been included in medical school
curriculums has been very
biochemically based
historically students do learn about
you know how does vitamin a or vitamin d
interact within
you know a human system
what we have to do is to help physicians
understand the concept of nutritional
therapy
which means that good nutrients can
reverse many kinds of chronic diseases
in a way that's very positive for the
patient without the use of drugs and
other things and i don't object to the
use of drugs but there are ways in which
physicians can help their patients by
helping the patient know how important
nutrition is in their own management of
their conditions
what medical students aren't being
taught is
if you fix the root cause
which is diet lifestyle you could roll
back these progressive diseases
my name is v capaldi
and i am i
consider myself a miracle
i have a secondary progressive ms and
have been legally disabled
august 5th it was 15 years
and that
translated into a bilateral loss of the
use of my hands
and inability to swallow and to
basically take care of myself which
resulted in full-time care and i'm going
to try
and guide
my hand
to apply
a little eyeliner
and then
i started doing the protocol and within
30 days my body started responding
miracles started happening and it
continues to happen even to this day and
i actually am pretty close to gainful
employment i wasn't able to drive for
many years i actually bought a new car
got a little red fiat
i'm thriving even better than i was
before i was ever diagnosed with
multiple sclerosis
in this journey you have to find meaning
in your circumstances right now
so that there is purpose and value in
their circumstances
and with good fortune diet and lifestyle
changes will stop the decline and quite
potentially restore function reduce
symptoms allow them to reduce and even
eliminate some if not all of their
medicines
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it's going to be
you know
really difficult giving up all the foods
you know that you're used to eating and
you know
especially like foods that you know
you know are you know have high fat or
high salt those kind of foods i feel
like my palate is geared toward you know
the typical american diet
i think everyone has that moment where
they have to have the aha and like they
have to commit and i don't think that
that had ever happened until
i was like huh i'm eating this chocolate
and probably in the next hour i'm gonna
be in the bathroom with severe symptoms
and that kind of like
like
behavior mechanism like it's an electric
shock
it really gets to you after all the
hardest thing
will definitely be i think
the social aspect because my friends are
very social they're every day they're
out doing something and that usually you
know after some sort of outdoor activity
like a bike ride or a hike or
you know a long walk with the dog
they'll meet up at brother john's or 10
barrel or you know
and have a couple beers and eat pizza um
so
that's going to be probably the hardest
thing for me
all right are we ready
yeah we called earlier about some
chicken livers
chicken livers down here
cool
there you go anything else for you do
you know a little information about
where the livers are from or
i have heard that it's a huge component
of the
diet
emphasis on meat and vegetables but also
the organ meats because there are some
things in organ meats that you can't get
anywhere else some organic food uh
they're on a non-gmo project uh things
like that so that's cool
we actually switched to them because of
that okay
let's hope it's good
because liver sounds a little
hard to stomach
hmm
interesting
most people know
they they want to or they should
eat better eat healthier and if they had
access to whole foods there really is a
genuine concern that the food won't
taste good and if the food doesn't taste
good people are likely not to eat it and
so this goes back to having a little bit
of inspiration motivation and risk in
the kitchen
to cook again it's it's hard to make
dietary changes when you've been eating
a poor diet for your whole life and
nobody's told you hey this is actually
putting you at increased risk of disease
and so we're not really there to tell
people they're doing something wrong or
that it's even their fault we are just
providing the information and giving
them some guiding principles so that
when they do start to make the changes
it can come from within so we really
want to highlight this half plate of
veggies and including uh healthy fats
with your meal
my colleague dr julie briley and i
developed the food as medicine every day
series almost five years ago so it's a
12 week hands-on whole foods cooking and
nutrition series that is actually taught
by naturopathic physicians
and every week we build on our nutrition
knowledge women should have no more than
six teaspoons
of added sugar a day
and men should have no more than nine
teaspoons
we need time to integrate that
information in order to lead to
long-term habits
and then the incorporation of cooking
meals together is really important
getting people to touch food seafood
smell food really helps to develop a
healthy relationship with food
we have a wide range of socio-economic
and educational backgrounds in terms of
the participants who come into these
food as medicine every day and in terms
of label reading and nutrition knowledge
it's it's an equal playing field we've
been teaching this program in very
diverse communities in portland for the
last five years and most recently we've
been in coffee creek correctional
facility and so this is a women's
correctional facility located south of
portland
in addition a lot of these women are
dealing with worsening diabetes weight
gain and other health issues while
incarcerated and in reality these are
women that are going home they're going
home to their families and they want to
be rehabilitated they want to cook well
for their family and their other family
members that might have diseases
so they they truly really need this
information
so when you look on your label you'll
see a section called nutrition facts
with all the numbers listed
i'm going to tell you why we don't
actually want to look at that part of
the label
the most important part to look at first
is actually the ingredient list
and it's such an important crucial skill
that people need to learn and then we go
through and we actually read some of
these labels and we see that one soda is
double or triple the amount of sugar
that you should have in one day this is
like mind-blowing for people then we
look at yogurt labels and processed food
labels i mean it's truly such an
eye-opening experience
these are vanilla
so these are this is 18 grams of sugar
15 grams of sugar
17 grams of sugar
so it has some maltodextrin in it
this one's actually pretty good on sugar
content for
ketchup only two grams of sugar
in a tablespoon
it's good
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it's like sweet
not very healthy
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my blood pressure is pretty high i think
the last time that
i took it it was
125 over 85 or something like that it's
elevated so
um
i take a beta blocker for that it's
called the metropole and so
you know my goal with this project is to
get off that medication and a couple of
the tools are 100 pomegranate juice and
hibiscus tea
which uh both work to naturally lower
blood pressure in place of a beta
blocker what are the ingredients is it
100 pomegranate juice you know just
juice from
ripe perfect that's exactly what i'm
looking for absolutely awesome just
nothing with no added sugar or cherry
juice in it
okay perfect all right thank you so much
what physicians we get very
uncomfortable when a simple solution
fixes many disease states
but it turns out that the simple
solution of
a nutrient-dense diet filled with
vegetables getting rid of the toxic
stuff
is the simplest solution for nearly
every chronic disease state it may not
cure you but it'll certainly reduce
symptoms reduce the need for meds
often to the point where you if you stay
with it you can get off medication after
medication after medication
so when i was at my sickest i was pretty
much bedridden i had lost my job i had
been in the hospital three times in six
weeks i was diagnosed with hashimoto's
disease which is an autoimmune thyroid
disease
and celiac disease about three and a
half years ago
after about a year of
declining health
and when i got my diagnosis they just
told me to go gluten-free and that
everything would change and i would feel
totally better
and i didn't i actually felt a lot worse
and i started to think well maybe
there's something about my diet that's
really not supporting me
and i did a lot of research and i really
came across
dietary modification for people with
autoimmune disease
and
what i found was totally shocking so
i had been living off of all of the
foods that the experts were now
recommending that people with autoimmune
don't eat and so those were things like
grains
legumes
soy
and that was like all i was eating so
i decided to do an elimination diet
and i removed all of the
gut triggers so i did the autoimmune
protocol and it totally transformed my
life in six months i was back to good
health and i wouldn't say everything was
perfect but it was the thing that really
jump-started me on the road to recovery
what
we have come to accept as normal is the
steady decline from the age of 18 with
worsening blood pressure
worsening clogging of the artery
worsening mental capacities
when we quit eating all these vegetables
and started eating sugar and white flour
we decreased the fiber content and we
used to have
100 150 grams of fiber in our diet and
now we have maybe 15 to 20 grams so
we're starving the health promoting
bacteria
so we've done a lot of things
that switched us from
having a healthy disease resistant body
for which our dna programmed us
to an inflamed sickly disease prone body
by having micronutrient deficiencies by
having our gene expression changed and
by shifting which bacteria and viruses
live in and on
the microbiome is all of the
microorganisms that live on and within
our bodies and so there's about 10 times
as many microorganisms that live in our
bodies as there are cells of our own
bodies and one of the things that we
understand is that we have this
symbiotic relationship with them we
provide a lovely home for all these
microorganisms and then they directly
influence our health
one of the things that is the most
important property of a healthy gut
microbiome is diversity so we want
something like 500 to 1000 different
species of microorganisms growing in
there in healthy relative quantities
there's certain things that can actually
make the wrong types of bacteria grow
then you have a system that's out of
balance then you have the lack of
variety that is one of the biggest risks
for chronic illness
so we need to feed them vegetables
and fruit and
nuts and seeds and these great sources
of nutrient dense fiber lots of plant
phytochemicals and then we can have this
healthy robust variety of microorganisms
living within our digestive tracts
living within our bodies that are then
providing us with all of these great
benefits like regulating the immune
system
so the gut microbiome
beyond
influencing the immune system influences
things like brain health influences how
our neurotransmitters are regulating
themselves
they can change our hormones and
influence our hormones and we understand
just the tip of the iceberg when it
comes to the gut microbiome we are
starting to understand how profound
and far-reaching their effects are
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you want a story can you store it for me
sophia is into cooking herself
she's really good at telling me what i'm
supposed to eat and not eat right sophia
okay you're like mommy are you sure
you're supposed to eat that
like yeah you're right
it's actually pretty simple people think
that yogurt is really complicated but
it only takes 15 minutes not like you're
chopping
3 000 vegetables
i know it's a lot easier than making
like vegetable soup
sophia look at this this is what makes
the yogurt
it's called the culture
just like those uh my science kids yeah
your science kids
like when i started with this
um healthy way of eating
my inflammation was like
60
which is really high
and now it's gone down to normal levels
like at the end of the day i would come
home from work and my lower back would
be paining and i have bleeding
and now i can you know have a really
energetic day like i can go to the zoo
with my kids i can go in the evening
so i can resume a normal life which last
year
was
not possible
so that has been a major victory
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and then we're just gonna put this on
top
and it will be ready in 24 hours
so when you start doing a
dietary approach and a lifestyle
approach you're providing the resources
that your body needs to heal and the
opportunity to heal which you get
through sleep and you get through the
hormone regulation that comes with
stress management and activity so you
get resources and opportunity
and then you don't have to place a
band-aid on the situation right the body
has the most amazing capacity to heal
itself when you actually give it the
resources and the opportunity
and so when we give our bodies that
chance to be healthy our bodies take it
we don't need to just drug ourselves up
to not feel bad we can actually feel
amazing
so i used to be morbidly obese
i had over a dozen different diagnosed
health conditions including three
autoimmune diseases
and i was sick
i was in pain all the time i had
migraines i had depression and anxiety
i
didn't have any energy
and i had two young daughters
and i was right at the cusp of this
really high profile academic career
without the energy
to be a career mom and without the
energy to try to balance
what's necessary to run a successful
academic lab in the current funding
environment
and
be the best mom that i wanted to be for
my children
and so i had to take time off of my
career in order to just do one thing at
a time and it i was not surviving
motherhood i was getting sicker and
sicker i was not getting enough sleep
um you know i i was a wreck and i needed
a solution
so i started to apply my scientific
background to my own health and
experienced absolutely you know what
some people would call miraculous health
turnaround so within two weeks of
changing my diet i was able to
discontinue six prescription medications
and it gave me back something that i
didn't even
understand i could have again
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i'm feeling better i'm sleeping really
well at night i sleep i used to wake up
like four or five times a night and just
toss and turn and be uncomfortable for
the position i was in with my joints and
now i sleep i'll sleep the whole way
until the morning and maybe only wake up
one time it's really really awesome i've
that's the biggest
change that i've noticed
so um but yeah
um energy levels are higher definitely
um that is definitely energy and sleep
and i think overall mood too
i feel
i feel really empowered and really
excited to
to get up every day
and
try new things and cook new things
here goes
it's definitely not something that
happens overnight as i'm sure you guys
the know heart association has shown
that in 2014
we spend about one billion dollars every
day on cardiac related disease health
care costs and they're expecting that to
double in another 14 or 15 years so that
if around 25 26
then there's going to be the cost will
be twice as much and we'll be spending 2
billion a day taking care of someone who
has chronic heart failure for example or
coronary artery disease can be very
expensive in terms of
surgeries or procedures
and therefore
my view is that we will not be able to
sustain caring for everyone who has it
that's what we'll have that's the
compromise we'll have to make and we'll
have to give people the best medical
treatment we can without undergoing all
the procedures that might be life-saving
because i don't think we could afford to
do it
if that many people in our population
had the problem
so when you look at the statistics
for something like autoimmune disease
you've got roughly
50 to 60 million americans who are
affected which is twice the number of
americans that are affected by
cardiovascular disease and four times
the number of americans that are
affected by cancer the cdc projects that
one in three people will have type 2
diabetes by the year 2050.
if we stay on this trajectory that we're
on right now
and that means we can't stay on that
trajectory because if that were to
happen it would it would bankrupt our
medical system and the decreased worker
productivity
is
two to three times the cost of the
medical care
another sidebar is that the lack of
healthy workers will devastate our
economy even if you decide we're not
going to cover any of those healthcare
costs that people you're on your own for
that
we can't afford the drain on the economy
from lack of healthy workers
what the moore institute wants to do is
to help people understand
the process by which four diets actually
lead to disease and that brings up the
word epigenetics
so epigenetics is the modification of
genes by what we call the environment in
this case i'm referring to nutrition
the science that i was talking about
that we want to share
is based on discoveries that have only
been known for the last decade or two
and that is that the nutrition that a a
person gets when they're developing
is what determines their likelihood of
having diseases when they're older
so now let me explain the hundred year
effect how it works
i'm in my 60s
my mother is in her 90s
and the egg that made me
was made in my 92 year old now mother
when she was a fetus in my grandmother's
womb and the egg that made me was almost
exactly a hundred years ago
so i'm a hundred
and that hundred year life i've had has
been dependent on my grandmother's
nutrition on my mother's nutrition on my
childhood nutrition and now on my
nutrition as an adult
if i can just give you an example the
way
you get nutrients while you're
developing before you're born
will tell a growing body how to turn on
genes or turn off genes
and if there is not enough nutrients to
grow well then what will happen is
some of the genes that should be turned
on and operating will be turned down
like a dimmer switch on a light they'll
be gradually turned down by a mechanism
called epigenetics
and then
later in life those genes will make a
person more vulnerable for having
disease
now many people have said the problem
with
emphasizing this
is that it somehow blames mothers for
all the disease that we have and that's
really not true
the truth is
that the food environment we all live is
where we auto is the problem
and if we have to blame something we
should blame the fact that the american
population has allowed food industries
to determine our taste preferences
and somehow keep us from eating the
kinds of food that would be healthy
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last time i was
making
goat yogurt and i was really enjoying
that and
i was still having problems with some
digestion and
so right now i'm not doing any dairy
yogurt included
and
i've also sort of started puring my
vegetables
and
it seems like it's going better
with
a more pureed
dairy-free diet so
i don't know i may have to sort of like
go this route for a while
until my body's like totally
more healed
like a typical artist mentalities
i start sort of like getting i start
speeding up and i become
more manic and
every couple of days like i'd have to go
in for a yoga or i have to go in for
acupuncture or something to like
somebody to jolt me back to like my
baseline
which in turn helps me make better
choices with my food
just trying out things like that to
manage my energy level
i love the big picture
the details are excruciating right now
i'm in the midst of that and then i have
to switch hats and sort of
sort of think about my big idea where
it's spreading
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i think this is the beginning of a new
movement in the prepared foods industry
in the restaurant industry one that
really says we need trust and we need a
maximum amount of transparency people
need to feel safe i do think it comes
from people being increasingly ill and
realizing for the first time that their
relationship to food might participate
in their health
but also i think because of the health
care system and the rewards that are
going into preventative care people are
taking more initiative for their health
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we're at dick's kitchen named after me
and functioning originally as my kitchen
as i lived upstairs
for a while and
was able to experiment on this kind of a
new idea
i've got a couple of genetic dice
rolling against me having both a
methylation defect and a tendency toward
either pre-diabetes or diabetes or
something like that so i don't manage
blood sugar very well and therefore what
i eat is crucial
my health concerns are not unique to me
um i've got probably a double or triple
whammy going but
many folks have issues that will be made
better by
much more conscious eating dick's
kitchen is really
an effort to promote
not just healthier eating but a
healthier approach to how we source our
food the rest of our menu is intended to
create
food that people recognize as their
favorite their favorite
food hamburgers and and side dishes and
potatoes
but done with much more thought and much
more balance in mind
i
feel like i interact with people every
day that are suffering needlessly
because of choices they're making
because of convenience they don't know
how to help themselves things aren't
available for them to help themselves
and they feel trapped
by what products are available to them
in the grocery store
food is something that can affect us
immediately and so what's really amazing
is to give people that experience of
just having a cup of broth and noticing
that they don't have a sour stomach in
the morning
and it's just interesting to see parents
saying they've never seen their children
so calm
or they've never felt like they slept so
well after a meal and not a deep vacant
sleep a restorative healthy sleep the
kind you should be having it's amazing
how quickly the body responds when it
has the tools it needs and i think the
tools that are the most accessible for
the body come in food form
yeah so the brooklyn house is
we call it european style comfort food
so um this lady would like
the pork chop special but she's on the
sibo protocol
okay so we have the parsley puree that
we can do with her for
and there's no garlic chunks in there no
garlic chunks it's all strained so we're
all good to go thank you and i often
accidentally say that our patients
need this or that when really i mean our
customers um and it's because there are
a lot of
naturopathic doctors and nutritional
therapists
in this city who trust us they've been
here they've talked to us they know
why we're doing what we're doing we know
they know how they have that
transparency
and so they
trust giving us as a resource to their
patients
so what we provide here is
a truly holistic
food as medicine experience you get both
the foods that are healthy for you and
the treatment that is healthy for you
you get to invite your whole family and
the family member who likes the steak
and potatoes and the family members
vegan and the family member who has
celiac disease are all going to be fine
and you with your sibo-specific diet can
feel like you just ordered a meal and so
those patients those customers
are
the most invested in this restaurant
they are personally invested in the
health of this restaurant because it
allows them a place to go where they
don't feel like a social outcast for
trying to heal their body through food
the hardest thing to do when you're
introducing this lifestyle to people is
to get them out of their heads
people are actually i think very
instinctive eaters and when their body
responds positively to a food regardless
of whether their brain is telling them
it's going to be kind of weird or
unusual they will naturally gravitate
toward it as a delicious experience
again that doesn't necessarily mean
they're ready to jump into eating a
whole piece of liver but if we can
prepare it in a way that makes it more
accessible
we'll be able to offer them a way to
participate
in the food business first and foremost
it's just got to be a satisfying meal no
matter how healthy you think you are if
you're not enjoying it you're not likely
to return so we have we have to balance
creating a great environment and a
welcoming environment for folks of
various nutritional orientations
but in the end anybody who has
um an interest in healthy food should be
intrigued enough to dig deeper and that
we hope we can do that without annoying
people
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our fears all our far away unknowns
boxes in i ask you to step out of your
box climb over those walls and look out
of your window and enter into the space
of the unknown
volunteer at that
sorry i'm going to start again sorry
okay
our fears i um
have been
not sleeping enough
so that's having a little impact
on my bowels
but i'm still holding on to
my diet i haven't really
gone and gotten a chocolate bar so i
think what's good is i'm shifting away
from
emotional eating
and now i just need to like
still manage that stress so it's like in
the middle of like
trying to like find the time to like
you know
be like this is gonna help me think
better
and let me get this centered
be aware of tedx which is coming up this
weekend at revolution hall we have the
artist in residence of that program
right now
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yeah the whole thing's going to be
amazing how are you doing i'm doing fine
you know
my talk
have you heard about the talk thing
okay so my time was 15 with the
animation on the 17th and now they're
like oh we're three minutes off with our
whole thing well i'm like then you can
be like shorter like you can be 50
seconds
yeah we might have to make it a little
higher i don't know okay what's going on
with this
oh be careful
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hi maria listen you're picking up the
children okay
just bring them over here to
i'm gonna send you the actress okay it's
14th and start
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okay hold on where's my
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maybe i should take one away
he's pulled it back i'm just gonna chill
out
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we have to change the food culture
people have to realize that it's just
not their own discipline for eating
better food which is important but we
need to find ways in which eating
healthy foods is really the the cultural
norm and we have long ways to go to do
that
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i'm really glad that you asked about
food culture because i think that that's
the important piece that's been missed
we talk about individual responsibility
and we talk about you know why people
aren't doing what they're doing but we
fail to really
give credit to the fact that we live
within a culture that is telling us how
we should
think and feel and
act
in regards to
health and wellness
our society doesn't really support
our choices to be healthy and well
corporate work environment every place
i've ever heard about the break room is
full of junk i mean
can we bring in a fruit platter
are you kidding no bringing donuts in
what are we having for dinner at the
potluck
pizza obviously like oh my gosh can we
get salad sure what do you end up with
white lettuce and croutons and cheese
caesar salad like yeah great white
lettuce plain iceberg lettuce it's like
of effort to actually do anything
healthy in the corporate world in the in
the work world which is where most of us
spend so much of our day
if there's not a lot of support there
that's gonna be tough to make change
diet wise
they're they're still a challenge
there's i still have
uh unfortunately like
uh incredible levels of stress in my
life my brother has been staying with us
for the past two months and that's a a
really
big source of tension for me
and then we were trying to buy a second
house and we pulled out of that
and so it's just been a very very busy
and challenging time on top of things
with work
um
and other things in in tyler's school
i've been able to you know like i've
told you before i've been able to go for
like a week like two weeks but then like
when i fall off like i fall off really
hard it's it's difficult especially
with the boys and we seem to eat out
quite a bit because of our schedules and
things like that i would say that that
has been the biggest barrier to being
able to successfully implement these
things is eating out you know
so i'm still i'm still
working on on the day-to-day choices
like i'm trying to have at least
one paleo meal a day and two paleo
snacks a day um
uh
and that i've been successful with and
i just you know i tend to feel
a whole lot better when i'm adhering to
to that type of you know diet
you know it feels like it feels like
every time we meet
i say this but it you know
it seems like things are going to start
slowing down i'm hoping um you know
kind of
letting my brother stay with us and in
trying to get into this you know this by
the second house and things like that
we're kind of just kind of shooting
myself in the foot for
for being successful with this
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it really is these chronic
lifestyle-based diseases that are really
taking the greatest toll on our health
and
the united states is actually one of the
greatest sufferers of these chronic
diseases so
despite the fact that we have access to
incredible
modern medicine
we're ranking pretty poorly compared to
our
fellow countries in terms of how we're
managing
the load the burden of chronic disease
so it's pretty serious i'd say
what
we have come to accept as normal is the
steady decline from the age of 18
with worsening blood pressure
worsening clogging of the artery
worsening
mental capacities
when in fact what is normal is
fully robust health physical
capacities mental capacities
uh into our 90s your diet actually has
to be a lifestyle choice
and so
what we need to look at when we're
giving individual recommendations to
patients is
we need to look at their stage of life
and their disease process and their
health goals we need to look at if they
have a food sensitivity or a food
allergy but in addition we also need to
think about their cultural upbringing
their ethical choices around food and
then
also and very importantly their access
do they actually have access to this
healthy healing food and so all of those
things need to be taken into account
when you're working with a patient and
trying to get them on the right path
we are all individuals and what is
optimal for each of us is going to be a
little bit different and is probably
going to be a moving target because how
our bodies respond to food is dependent
on how much sleep we got it's dependent
on our stress it's dependent on exactly
what our gut microbiome is doing it's
dependent on the last time we were
exposed to a virus or bacteria there are
so many things that influence how we
respond to foods so creating a diet
right and it's here's your rules here's
your yes and your nose isn't really the
goal it's creating the scientific
foundation for understanding
how to choose a food
and then providing a framework from
which people can start
and then experiment to figure out what
is really optimal for them what makes
them feel the best
three
four
i
have gotten off track for sure and so
um
i've just been dealing with that i guess
i've been
not i can definitely tell a difference
in how my body feels when i was on track
versus to now that i'm off track
things were better little things that i
think affect
um
the condition like sleep i was sleeping
a lot better and energy and
you know not even not even the specifics
of the actual disease or the condition
it was just those little things that
like i noticed a lot and you know the
big one is pain
it's back
so unfortunately i haven't been back to
my functional medicine doctor because
for a while there i was paying out of
pocket my insurance doesn't cover
functional medicine and so i was paying
out of pocket
and at some point it just got to be too
expensive because i was paying hundreds
of dollars in vitamins and supplements
and every time i went it was
more tests and insurance wouldn't cover
this test or that test and so it was
definitely starting to add up
right now what's holding me up is
i'm getting lots of information from
just which diet to follow because now
i'm hearing that meat is
not good for arthritic conditions and i
went to an eredologist
in town
and she was amazing and she's a
recovering um
because she's not recovering she's in
remission from her rheumatoid arthritis
and she
is very adamant about following a strict
vegan diet
i definitely felt like i
was confused i'm still confused that's
another one of the big reasons why i'm
struggling right now i'm
i'm confused and especially when you
yourself are googling
that's the worst
oh those are vegan ones
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you can still find good information on
the internet but it takes a skilled eye
to be able to sift through all the
information and pull out the pieces
so i do think you can get some
information from the media but if it's
specifically related to your disease
state and you're thinking about making a
big change i think you do need to seek
out a healthcare professional that has
that training and that can work with you
along the way i think you often do need
support and guidance and practical
information
to be successful
right and what
what do you understand what's keeping
you from getting to the
between the altri and icann
you know i've made a huge amount of
changes in this year
so i mean i do feel like i feel like i'm
doing my best
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and that's still not good enough and
that's what is so upsetting me you know
and it's like you know what i don't know
there's something there's something
right now
that
and i think it's just also kind of i
think the thing is like you said like
you have to accept that you're not gonna
be able to go back to that lifestyle and
so you have to like accept that like you
know
okay you've done all this stuff and this
is part of what you're doing but it's
not gonna get you back to eating ice
cream
no i guess that you want to eat ice
cream for the first place
so well that's that's where you have to
go and you know what everybody goes
through a mourning process
everyone does
and you you have to go through it you
have to let yourself go through it and
you have to be angry about what you're
giving up because you aren't giving up
yeah
and then
once you get past that you'll be to the
next point where you'll realize what
amazing things you gained from this
sure
i mean you you will i know you will
even with a restricted diet your
lifestyle is actually going to be opened
up because you're going to be healthier
you will be able to eat an immense
amount of variety once we get you you
know your inflammation down
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basically like i was just laying there i
was putting my 18 month old down and
it's like it wasn't vertigo but it was
just like i heard like a pop and then
like just everything like shifted 90
degrees like
it was really strange like it's like not
like my viewing angle or anything like
that but it just felt like
kind of your center of balance was
totally shifted
but i mean i think it was more of like a
situation where
they really wanted to just rule
everything out because the way that the
symptoms were a little bit all over the
place and could have aligned with
something that was worse which also kind
of like fueled the anxiety and the not
knowing and i think
going through that process and then
eliminating things like
in the end helped because then it
gets you realizing like it wasn't these
things where it could have been so i was
pretty much in the emergency room all
day
that saturday and i had a cat a scan i
had you know where they
inject you with iodine and things like
that and
not a pleasant feeling
you know you don't want to get obviously
a bad prognosis but i was
you know hoping that he would tell me
you know
you gotta start doing this we gotta
start doing that because this is you
know so but it's definitely a motivator
absolutely
it's been
kind of night and day as far as the
heart palpitations and
and really good
as far as
the reflux but when i do go off and i'm
not eating paleo then the reflux kind of
comes roaring back so
and
i think the night that i had the
heart palpitation
um
i was having some reflux symptoms as
well so
you know it's kind of
maybe related to that
i think i was a little naive on how you
know how big of an adjustment or a
change it would be especially with
things like my work schedule and stuff
like that so
um
yeah i've got i've got to learn some
some strategies when for when things
don't go according to plan how to you
know
how to keep it all together
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we need to both change
the education when it comes to food and
change the food supply and change how
our food is grown and change our access
to food and change the cost of food so
that healthful foods are the ones that
are subsidized
not the other way around
and so it's it's a problem with so many
different moving parts and it requires
us as a community
to really demand that all of these
different moving parts are addressed
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the truth is that we now have people in
oregon and across the country are
suffering what we call high-calorie
malnutrition and i feel sorry for people
who are in this condition i don't blame
them
because our food culture
has driven us to the place where
the only access of affordable food for
many people are high calorie foods that
don't have nutrients
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the prevailing wisdom is that
we have an obesity epidemic and a lot of
people are having trouble managing
chronic conditions and that that is
largely due to high calorie malnutrition
or someone's getting a whole lot of fat
and sugar but not the nutrients they
need really to stay healthy and so in
that case
prescribing vegetables might be
appropriate in other cases when
someone's having stalled healing
due to malnutrition
especially if they're low income the
problem might be protein in their diet
that they're just not getting enough
protein to grow new skin and therefore
they can't heal so that's that's where
we started our first program was in what
we now call curative nutrition dosing um
so we're finding folks who have stalled
healing with um wounds or burns or uh
surgical incisions
who aren't able to get better because
their their body just doesn't have the
nutrients to do it and so we prescribe
them a limited course of nutritious food
that is
tailored to them specifically right
amount of grams of protein and calories
for each meal
and they eat it and get better
the social determinants of health
make up about 70 to 75 percent of what
is a person's personal health picture
that's something that ordinarily
a physician can't
impact very much for his patients
but
they can impact
the nutritional picture in the home
by addressing food security
in the clinic
providence has adopted a particularly
deep set of interventions and so they
screen for food insecurity because it's
quick and simple but then if a person is
food insecure they're matched up with a
health navigator who assesses their full
situation that has patients walking out
of a clinic with some new resources to
help improve their diet
when i started in april of 2014
there was one clinic screening in oregon
and now they're over 200.
a lot of my patients who've done it so
far have really found that they've um
that things have improved yes so um
let me know how it goes but i think that
it's it's been really helpful and thanks
again for being honest
so um from from the top down our medical
decision makers um
really have kind of a blind spot here so
it's really important for programs like
this to fill that blind spot and to
inform our system of what what could be
and what should be
it's pretty exciting we we got this idea
when we learned about my street grocery
we got this idea to write a grant
through our
good samaritan foundation which is the
foundation here at our hospital
so we decided we wanted to write a grant
to get vouchers to help people shop for
healthier food options because what we
were finding was is our physicians would
go into the exam room and talk to
someone with congestive heart failure or
diabetes
and we would the physicians would say
you need to be eating healthier eat more
vegetables
and the patients would look at them like
you're crazy
you know i get 180 a month in food
stamps and i can't afford
that kind of
diet
upon coming here i had a very unique
experience with the patient and was
counseling them on dietary choices for
their diabetes and she looked at me and
said are you crazy that's a rich man's
diet i can't eat those things and pay
for them and she went to the canned food
stores and things like that so that kind
of started me on my quest to do a
project like this
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basically it's it's not only
bringing the food to a population that
really needs to have better access but
it's a more well-rounded approach to
access because it means relationships
that are already built in and that trust
between patient and provider and social
worker and
it's also financial access it's
dietary information
specific to medical conditions so it's i
like to say that bringing the food into
the community is not the end of our work
it's the beginning of our work so we
bring the food and now with this
partnership we provide more resources
that truly make it accessible
all the patients have to do is show up
they don't have to have an appointment
on tuesdays so usually they're told by
their physician
or
they're referred off the good sam campus
they don't have to jump through any
hoops we've made it as simple as
possible
and they come and meet either scott or i
the social worker eye and they get 15 a
week five three five dollar vouchers
weekly
and by bringing my street in we bring in
what we know is a healthier food
selection if we just gave them
you know 15 a week to go shop at safeway
they might go buy you know processed
pre-packaged foods and you know the the
inexpensive stuff that they're used to
buying because that's what they can
afford so here we know they're getting
fresher
organic
healthier food items in their shopping
so these food programs are important
because they are treating the immediate
needs of patients they're improving
lives first that's why they're important
and secondly they're important because
they're making a case for
for food to be used as medicine i mean
they're helping insurers and regulators
understand
the role that food can play
how we can save money and reduce
suffering
with a small resource that's already
available by just applying it in an
innovative way
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has been around since 2002
and
we started out
first with our education programs
and one thing that we were seeing over
the last 10 now 12 13 years
is that the
the mujeres the women that we see in the
program
their health has changed a lot over that
generation of students
because most of our patients come from
mexico their basic diet is really
healthy they eat beans and rice and and
tortillas and delicious mole and they do
a lot of physical work they walk places
they exercise on a regular basis and
then they come to this country and
there's a wealth of options but the
majority of those options
are
really not healthy and so um a couple
years ago adelante mujeres really wanted
to make
a concerted effort to not only address
food but exercise stress
stress relief
all sorts of holistic parts of health
one of those initiatives that we're
doing is this great collaboration
between adelante mujeres and virginia
garcia this prescription program
involves the provider being able to say
hey you've got a family member who's at
risk either because they have diabetes
or they have hypertension or they have
obesity um would your family be
interested in getting some education
around healthy eating learning how to
prepare healthy food and then getting a
voucher to go to the farmer's market and
so i have several of my families that
have participated now for second year
and they're really making great strides
in um making healthier choices and
having access to that fresh local
produce
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we are with virginia garcia
and dr uh recommend
the patient
with us
so we are in this in this group where we
have the classes
and we these classes
is every month one time every month
and
they receive a
six dollar per person in the house per
week
so and they can spend that money at the
forestry farmers market another part of
the structure of our program has been to
have
consistent relationships so the folks
that they're seeing in these monthly
meetings are the same staff that are at
the farmers market that can help them
navigate once they get there okay we did
that thing in class how are we going to
find it in the market or
i'm searching for this type of chile or
something or do you know a farmer that
has this or that and so feeling
confident that they're going to when
they arrive at the farmers market have
someone to also be there to kind of
um be a support when they're when
they're
trying to find whatever or feel more
welcome when they come to the market
they're enjoying eating more vegetables
and then we can also follow their
metrics you know when they come into the
clinic we you know we weigh them we
check their blood pressure we check
their blood sugar and we're able to see
small but steady improvements uh in
their health and again they're we're
getting the whole family involved
because if even if it's a mom who has
diabetes or is overweight we know that
their kids are at risk as well and so
the more vegetables and fruit that's
brought into the household the healthier
they're gonna get used to eating so that
works really well
i think with the community there's
really nothing worse than feeling
really isolated and alone and like
you're the only person doing something
and when you have a community you're
really motivated to stay on track so
when i was really sick i had a very
small community maybe three or four
people that i was talking to almost
every day
and when they had successes even if i
wasn't experiencing success i was so
motivated to keep doing what i was doing
so starting the blog was
basically my outlet to start talking
about what i was going through with
people that
also had personal experience with it
because as much as my husband loves me
and he's interested in what i was doing
he didn't want to hear about it day in
and day out and he didn't really
understand what it felt like to be going
through what i was going through so
that was a really big outlet for me as
far as
just sharing what i was going through
and then being able to connect with
other people who were in the similar
boat and
also just kind of figure out what they
were doing and if it was working for
them and
try and refine
what i was doing and what i was learning
in addition to that
i do try to do a lot of community
building because i really believe that
the people that are able to be
successful find community and have
friends that can keep them accountable
and can have like social gatherings with
and kind of commiserate and collaborate
with so
i try to share a lot of that on my blog
too to help people connect with each
other
environment is super important and that
translates to the house home wherever
that might be whatever that looks like
for someone if the people in your
household your immediate
nuclear family whatever that might look
like if there's not a lot of support
there that's gonna be tough to make
change
so that's tough and then the environment
that you are in socially outside of work
what are those people doing where are
they going how do they support you
hey that's really hard so
if we had a culture of support for
everyone do the best that they could
rather than this judgment that continues
to happen almost all the time be a lot
easier so what people have said about
the groups that i run the food story
groups that i run is that these groups
are the only place in their entire lives
where they can have the conversation
about food and food story and body image
and fitness and wellness where they know
that people understand what they're
saying without them having to explain it
in great detail like they just because
they get it they're living the same sort
of stuff but it's really helped you the
dive
yeah it has if when i'm on it
and i'm doing it religiously it's been a
struggle for sure
yeah so adam hopefully will make it but
he may not make it his life has just got
crazy busy this morning with work and he
had to take off so to work unfortunately
you need community you need your tribe
who really get what you're going through
that's so necessary for people to
succeed because so often they feel like
again like i'm the only one who can't
get my act to get together i'm the only
one who doesn't have the smarts or the
information or the wherewithal or the
motivation or the willpower to make this
work then you go sit in a group of six
people and they'll go oh yeah i totally
get that i'm the same way and you go oh
wait oh oh i'm totally normal there are
people who get what i'm going through
you're going through what i'm going
through okay
i think the best thing
and this is the hardest thing is like
the empathy for yourself when you do
fall off the wagon and you do screw up
like where the empathy for that like
nobody's really there to be like
hey you know what because they don't
even get it they don't even realize it's
really hard to be in your shoes and like
my shoes
having a supportive community actually
directly improves our health
so having a supportive community
actually changes
our hormones so it changes things like
cortisol it changes how our bodies are
responding to stress
it changes things like oxytocin it's
called the love hormone so when we are
feeling connected and supported we're
producing more oxytocin which is
anti-inflammatory it helps regulate the
immune system it helps
set up this situation in our bodies
where our bodies can heal
so having a sense of community and
support has been well established in the
scientific literature to improve health
outcomes
and so when we have that we know we
don't just have the practical part of
this person who understands what i'm
going through this person who's a who's
a cheerleader or a shoulder i can cry on
but then we get this wonderful hormonal
response to having that community that
by itself helps speed up our healing and
promotes better health so it's
absolutely fundamental
that's awesome
i i was super secluded in the beginning
and it made me really bummed so i just
was like put myself out there
and it's so funny because i had met you
before
at mickey truscott's um
book talk at natural grocers we sat
beside each other because i recognized
you
i had really fast success with it by
november 2013 was my last ms flare
and i made it a year and a half with no
flares at all until i accidentally ate
one bite of gluten at a restaurant and i
lost feeling in my leg for three months
and it is just now coming back it's
definitely
comforting to feel that you're not
alone in this
beth has definitely inspired me i love
her story and it's it's like real it's
real evidence i mean i haven't had
an actual like huge flare up so i
haven't been able to experience that but
she has and you know
i it's a real thing this whole thing
with diet and body it's real and so
i love that i found someone so close
to me that
has put themselves in remission through
diet
that's so inspiring because it's a long
road and it's so frustrating and
you are definitely
i've been tempted to give up but you
know when you have a friend and a
success story it's definitely
keeps you going you know i really have
to think about it of how much joy do i
get from being in a restaurant to how
much joy do i get chasing my kids at a
park right i get way more joy chasing my
kids at a park than i do eating in a
restaurant
um
yeah so
i i was on prednisone for three and a
half years ten milligrams a day for the
first two years and then the last year
was five milligrams a day and then like
the last half year i was just going down
every month
um five milligrams four milligrams three
milligrams two milligrams one milligram
and now i'm completely off of it
yay
so that's a good feeling because i was
really nervous about the long-term
effects of prednisone so
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i like them too
i think i'm used to the tartness and the
natural sweetness i feel like we really
do we really
there's so much effort that we put
we're like hard workers
as people with
disease and and dietary restrictions
we're like the hardest workers
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um
you know
the net gain from the
having more energy and in in feeling
healthier has really been
a plus for us and had a positive effect
on our lifestyle yeah so i mean it's
been about two months now of um cutting
out sugar where before i mean my husband
can tell you i had sugar right yeah i
still have it over here this is this is
kind of probably bare minimum she used
to have
the big syrup pumps yeah every morning
and this is more now on hand like for
guests or something or just kind of left
over
i've seen a real difference in my energy
level
and i think that now when i do have some
sugar
i appreciate it a lot more you know you
know she's lost you know almost 10
pounds and
i've lost almost 10 pounds but she's
lost a lot of inches and things like
that because of sugar and when we sat
down and talked about how can we make a
lifestyle change for our family versus
how can like you make a change and how
can i make a change that it made all the
difference because before
you know he would be doing something and
i would i would you know half do it or
this sort of thing but once we sat down
and said like well what will work for us
like how can we meal plan together so
that it makes sense for both of us or
how can we encourage each other it made
all the difference
you know once she's kind of been on
board and
kind of eating the same lifestyle as me
it's helped tremendously
so a little a little bit of an update
for me on the medical side
so i have been able to discontinue
seeing
my specialty cardiologist
so my heart palpitations have decreased
to the amount where it's
usually about once a week maybe
once every eight to nine days whereas i
used to have them
multiple times a day
and my blood pressure is in control now
it was
high on the systolic range i believe and
now it's it's under on both
adam can you say hi to the camera
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good morning
i made all this
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identity is like a window that frames
our view of the world
we can handle something sub-optimal
better if we have all the nutrients
available to help process that so we can
handle a stressful event we can handle a
late night we can handle
exposure to a food that normally
would be really inflammatory for our
bodies we recover faster and so having
an overall nutrient density focus in the
diet becomes the foundation of a diet
that supports health the inflammation
has gone down a ton and so i don't have
as much pain
in all of my body yeah so it's been
making my mobility better it's making my
energy levels go up just my my mood my
sleep everything has gotten so much
better
i would say i'm down about 15 pounds
and then you know
just like little things like my skin has
cleared up a lot
and other things like i'm not as anxious
things are better and things are
improving and we're working with the
slightly
modified treatment plan which is more of
the same like staying with my diet and
staying with my healthy yoga people are
stating we want time with our physicians
we want more office time we want
education about prevention we want
education about food as medicine i think
that the medical community has a lot to
learn about how important nutrition is
and by the way i keep meeting people who
are senior level
doctors in medical institutions who are
like me who have come to realize how
important nutrition is and are actually
using it now just working with my doctor
test results really seeing how these you
know the foods impact my body and my
blood pressure and my a1c and those type
of things you know i'm glad that i i
worked on the first diet and failed
because it's given me a lot more drive
and a lot more incentive it's just
trying to keep on track and you know
trying to not diverge off of that
and the process
was not linear i think these stories are
like windows into our past
and i need to share this knowledge with
my children and i ask you to do the same
and this will become a source of
learning for generations to come
i want to be playing soccer playing
music
with my
children grandchildren
great-grandchildren in my 80s and 90s
and preferably when i'm 100. i'm getting
my health under control and
and
that is what was the step i wanted to
take before i could move on to the next
step which would be
having a family you know once you start
to see success then you know it's you
start to get the motivation and it's
easy to keep it going you know but in
the beginning it's hard right so um
yeah you know i think that you know i
have a lot of hope for my journey going
forward i can still have a fulfilling
life
and actually make these changes and i
don't have to go back to that old
that you know that wasn't like that's
not the goal of getting healthy in the
meantime i say go home and cook a
healthy meal in your home with your
family because that's what you can do
today what you can do now and this isn't
like
a cute portlandia joke this is this is
real and it matters it's really
changed my life for the better it's like
almost saved my life
i'm still on my journey this is you know
maybe the end of the film but it's not
the end of my journey for me
we can all find our path forward
by breaking out of our boxes
by painting and reclaiming our cities
and recording the lost stories in our
communities
because when we look out of our window
of identity
we are all under the same blue sky
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we need the public to share
the message that they're learning as
well so that we can affect as many
people as possible
and i do believe that that compounds on
an exponential level on a community
scale that if we can heal ourselves if
we can feel good in our bodies then we
want to share that with our friends our
family our community
this is a lifestyle this is a lifelong
commitment to health and it is a journey
but we all have to come to this place
in our own way you'll have to come to it
at our own pace the future of healthcare
is teaching people how to create more
and more health in their lives
that is the future of healthcare and
whatever profession will best deliver
that will be the healthcare profession
of the future
then we don't have to wrestle so much
with what we're going to do with all
these people who are going to get
chronic disease because
chronic disease will disappear and i
think it's possible for us to do if we
have the will to do it
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