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all things FSU pistols and Pie starts

right now here's Jeff Cameron the Civil

headlines 93 three Real Talk Pretty

award champ TV I think I think we have

it working I will start by saying Ira

say hello

hey Jeff

that is heard by the masses I do believe

Corey say hello is this thing on can

anyone hear me can anyone hear me I

believe we are up and running

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time to go to our break that's the chat

hear us does everybody suggest that they

can hear us

I think the answer is yes

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us they hear us let's go mic check whew

yeah man they're all they're all in

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let's refresh our minds right now I'm

it's kind of in a bad place for 15

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was out at the park watching at the Plex

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to see the sausage display I tweeted the

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the softball regionals and I assume at

the Super Regionals people could get

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a regular sausage and then they also had

the jalapeno cheddar and I saw some

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because his internet sucks it's a uh

I'll answer your question for you Corey

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you got to see a riveting game and we

got to see an all-time great performance

and we celebrated that last night on the

smash we certainly talked about it over

the weekend and we can talk about it

here because it's an all-time great

thing uh but

it's a little awkward start to the show

and I don't know how to ease into this

thing other than Corey I wanted your

perspective on it because IRA and I

already talked about it what uh what cat

did is in the annals of Florida State

lower right we'll be talking about this

for 20 years yeah I mean because

the offense let her down like one run in

13 Innings is not what you're hoping for

right that's not what you're hoping for

in the biggest moment the biggest day of

the season but she made sure it didn't

matter and her defense her defense was

Flawless it wasn't 21 up 21 down with 21

strikeouts

um but yeah man that's that's I compared

it on wake up war chant to like what

Buster Posey did that one Regional or

what Charlie Ward would do would

adversity struck like just a great

player making sure that their team

doesn't lose and she was incredible

um just when they needed it the most and

that's what great players do so as I

tweeted the 32 will be retired at some

point Florida State softball is a little

They Don't Really retire the numbers

with uh a lot of fervor like they've

only got two retired

um there's a lot more that deserve

probably at least the the number the

jerseys to be retired if not the numbers

but she's certainly up there man she's

one of the all-time greats and that was

uh that was really cool to see well it's

much more high profile now I mean let's

be honest

not been exactly a sport though a we

would have ever talked about five to

seven years ago and and I know you know

people get mad if they want it just

didn't move the needle at all now it

does the Sport's much better than it

used to be it's played better it's more

athletic it is no longer running bunts

you see a lot of great athleticism and

fun action and the sport has grown

nationally so I don't know that anybody

would have been aware of the Forgotten

softball stars of yesteryear in the 70s

and 80s not that they didn't exist it

just would not have been something that

people thought about and now you will

now you will because really for the

better part I guess I should say for the

better part of seven eight years Florida

State softball has mattered and we see

it on our boards and we see it

nationally with the ratings for softball

hey man we've got some people who are in

the chat not thrilled about some

softball talk but here's the deal guys

listen first of all they deserve it

second of all and we're not gonna spend

two hours

that's all I'm talking about is her

performance but also look man we haven't

seen a live Florida State team has a

whole lot of success since the the uh

the bowl game because uh we we watched

basketball and baseball and uh so we're

gonna we're gonna save her some success

on the field for this FSU softball team

particularly when Catherine Sanders did

what she did hey shout out shout out

also to the FSU women's golf team

they're in the quarterfinals of the

National Tournament right now they're

they're playing Wake Forest and they

have a little bit of an edge with about

four holes to go I'm not trying to jinx

it and it's on the Golf Channel if you

want to watch it or yeah so so you're

gonna obviously have that on the TV and

have us on your computer but yeah so

they're they're they're doing well too

they got a chance at a national

championship still yeah you can feed

into that if you want Corey here you go

you're going to make everybody happy uh

no what what I what I'm telling you is

it was more about I brought up a

singular performance in the Isles of

Florida State lore and not the team and

not the subject of softball and not it's

just more about where does that Rank and

how long will that be remembered because

it should and we still remember certain

aspects of other Olympic sports that

people have been exemplary at so yeah I

mean I'm not going to ignore that yeah

and I'm also not going to apologize for

talking about that softball team because

it is one of the best programs on campus

it's a really fun sport they do have to

figure out the time situation because a

year or two ago one of the great things

about it was it was so much faster than

college baseball but man and I know the

UCF game was a was a an oddity because

that picture took a minute between

pitches yeah I can't do that but even in

general softball now is taking I mean

these softball games are taking two and

a half hours it's a little much for a

seven in the game

yeah man I can't see it because I got

the blinding lights but yeah I was I got

a little sunburn

the other reason is that I don't know

how many more times we could talk about

the results of the spring meetings that

you attended over there at Amelia Island

I mean we've certainly exhausted that

conversation as well I will say this Tom

and I just shot a video for something

that listen this is a grand introduction

of summer when lists come out that piss

you off or make you laugh or make you

celebrate or just make you click at all

you know we are in the throes of Summer

and a list came out and it didn't once

again include Jameis Winston an enraged

Florida State fans and it's a list of

top 10 quarterbacks right right I think

he was on the on the bigger list yeah

and and so

you know we basically just shot a video

Tom and I did this morning about that

list look Ben the one thing about the

list season which is what summer is and

and and we specifically will comment at

least as it regards in regards to

Florida State Seasons or players or

whatever it might be

you know you got to always find out if

that person or that media entity is

defining their terms

James played two seasons

the guy on top that list four

one at 14 000 plus yards passing one at

seven thousand we're not comparing

Apples to Apples at that point if you

like did anybody singularly have a

better year than 2010 Cam Newton

right now right so so but what does he

rank all time well that year so my point

is don't bother getting all pissed off

about that I know that most in the

Florida State Community would say well

this is just another example of ESPN

leaving Jameis off a list look man I

mean if I'm gonna do that I'm gonna tell

you that uh I'll just I'll just have the

60 touchdown Joe burrow year in which he

threw 60 touchdowns and six

interceptions and through a gazillion

yards as the greatest season ever or Cam

Newton's year or whatever we can go back

a ways but man it's not worth getting

not angry about it it's amazing the

feedback well even the the list on

Three's been putting out their top 10

players in every position or top in the

top 100 players I think in college

football and Florida State have five of

the top 100 players in college football

according to on Three's list which to me

I mean the first thing that says to me

is holy crap how things have changed

because two years ago they wouldn't I

mean if they did a list of the top 500

players right in college football would

they have had anybody on it but they've

got five of the top 100 I think the most

any school had I think Michigan had

seven there's maybe one other school

with six and there's a few with five but

Florida State's one of the teams there's

only a handful of teams in the country

that have five players on the list but

of course a lot of FSU fans were just

mad that Jordan was too low or that you

know Johnny was too you know low in it's

like

I mean these listen you're not they're

not going to make everybody happy but

that's you know they generate interest

and talk but but from a big picture

standpoint the fact that Florida state

has five of the top 100 I mean that's

really cool well there's evidence all

around our talking points our poll

questions are are you know round tables

the Articles you guys have written the

stuff we'll do in the off season when we

eventually get to the top 40 and all

those things there's evidence everywhere

that Florida state has completely

flipped that locker room and raised the

floor and provided now a number of elite

players in this league and nationally I

mean I think we all we did this a couple

weeks ago Corey when we were talking

about how many people off of this

upcoming years team are gonna get

drafted yeah because the drafters came

and went and they had you know one guy

get drafted and it was in the fifth

round and so you look at that and now I

ask you in the next two seasons how many

Florida State players are going to get

drafted and the answer is double digits

yeah I would say somewhere between 12

and 15 you would think and guys I'll be

honest with you I'm looking forward to

that top 40 warship list it's going to

be the easiest one we've ever done we're

not gonna number one Travis J will not

be anywhere on it for the first time in

half a decade just gonna ride with him

you're still going to put him at 38.

just to see what he can do that's right

but I mean it's you know I was I was

talking with Aslan about this like out

of that top hundred you know Jaheim

Bell's not in it

um Jeremiah buyers isn't in it Patrick

Payton's not in I'm not saying they

deserve to be in it I'm saying you have

players like that that aren't even your

top players like top players quote

unquote

um Ronaldo green I mean Ronaldo Green's

a really good college football player at

least he was this past year

who who I don't know if he'll be drafted

I don't know if he'll be uh I think

he'll be drafted but I don't know where

he ranks in the in the in the pantheon

of college football players right now I

know he's a good college football player

and what could make this team special is

you have some Elite Elite Talent in our

it's not top heavy though sprinkled

around that Elite Elite Talent is good

college football players Caitlin DeLoach

Tatum Bethune Jeremiah Byers Maurice

Smith

Robert Scott guys like that man TOA

feely guys that aren't even really

thought of as elite elite players but

they're good and they're experienced and

I think that's what gets you excited

about this season I actually think the

top 40 list is going to be opposite of

what Corey said it could be harder I

think it's really hard

the players won't be harder you know

Discerning between number seven and

number 11 might be more difficult it

won't be more difficult yeah it won't be

hard to come up with 40 players that has

been the challenge and a few years ago

it was hard to get into 10. yeah two or

three years ago but yeah but um but you

know that but there will be a challenge

of who do you who do you leave off

because there's going to be guys who we

leave off the top 40 that are probably

pretty good football players two years

ago this exercise depressed the hell out

of me three years ago it depressed the

hell out of me four years ago it

depressed the hell out of me this year

we're gonna have consternation over 7 10

12 15 18 20. yeah but it's a different

kind of uh Difficult by far in the past

you just kind of had to project a whole

bunch of guys you had to project like 25

of the 40 on that list to take a huge

step forward and put forward in order to

be on the list now you've got to be like

all right well I I've got 20 I know are

on the list right off the bat there's

just 20 off the top of my head that are

easy how do I rank them from there who's

fighting for a starting job and do I

think they're going to win it because if

they don't how valuable are they and

where will you put them because that's

going to require Corey and all of us on

staff to project the starting five on

the offensive line start there who are

the starters and who are the backups all

of them will play a top 40 role but who

are they and then there's two more

beyond that because there's 12 to 5 for

five you know the three tight ends I

think we're gonna probably rank Jaheen

Bell number one on that list but then do

you do you think Morlock or biscuit will

have a greater role as the number two

Titan I think probably biscuit right now

but I mean it it's it gets fun it's a

more fun Endeavor than it's been in a

long time there's a lot of fun back in

2013 2014. it's about to be fun again

finally yeah when we first started doing

these I can't remember the first year

Gene started it I think it was in a long

time ago probably 10 or 11 somewhere in

there but it at the time it was a pretty

it was a fun exercise because there was

a lot of good players and then he

probably didn't

project that we would get to the 2018

season where you're you're putting guys

on there that man alive I remember

having the time Tom and I would go on

this big white board that we had at the

old office and we would write down 40

because he would be asked to do it too

and I'm like man I don't think there are

40 good players I know there's not 40

good players are there 20 good players

and then we would argue about that I'm

like are there 10 good players okay what

do we do with the other 30 slappies how

do I move these guys around to make it

make any sense of this list also an

Endeavor we used to have on warchant

which was a lot of fun which we didn't

do this year because we would have

picked one freaking guy was where does

this player get drafted remember those

debates like oh I think he's second

round oh he's maybe late first oh I

think he's early third we used to have

to really worry about 20 guys yeah we

would have like a big a big table with

like you know all the columns and rows

and everybody's making all their picks

yeah so I I joined and I joined warchant

in December of 17 so my first top 40 was

the 2018 team

um which look man my first top 40 I'm

pretty sure I had Alex horny bro no

sorry my second top 40 I had Alex horny

Brook in the top 10.

Hornswoggle was in the top ten James

Blackmon might have been number one

I mean not that I thought he was the

best player on the team but most

important I mean quarterback's pretty

important clearly

um and so we've come a long way gang is

all I'm saying we've come a long way

that hortisolago Blackman

um Travis J they're not they're not

going to be featured in the top 40 for

2023. Preston Simpson's coming at you

Jeff he's alive he loves to mess with us

and his Insight is always funny he says

that uh you had cushny at 37 last year

I was so mad when that walked out there

on that field that day and saw him I'm

like that's impossible I mean how could

you guys have done such a good job and

then somehow thought that guy was going

to play for you at defensive end that

was unbelievable he was I mean they had

a spot they had a spot it was July let's

take a chance

not a favor to like I mean what in the

world was going on there that said that

said they don't have to do that now now

it's a battle at most places now there's

depth in most places we should just come

up with

lists for the remainder of May list for

June list for July because it's what

every other Outlet does it's what

sometimes we have to engage in the off

season's tough guys

so I'm talking about a list of our

favorite uh our favorite road trips to

like SEC or Big Ten schools

like do that like have a list of where

would you want to go where would you

want to be playing in 2025 which of

these cities I was going to do a column

and I might still do it Corey but I was

going to account when I was sitting over

there in the lobby of the uh Ritz

Carlton at Amelia Island at the ACC

meetings I started to do a list of the

10 10 my 10 favorite memories from

covering

that event over the last 12 13 years

were they all this year no no no no and

one of them was uh one of them was gonna

be the Himalayan salt that has to be in

the top ten it's still there right oh

yeah yeah oh my gosh the bathrooms are

the Ritz Carlton the lobby bathrooms

they had that Himalayan rock salt you

rub it on your hands Jeff it's like a

baby's bottom it's as smooth as a baby's

cheek it's ridiculous what it does to

your hands yeah my other favorite one

was one of the other favorite ones you

know you know and I still May write the

column because it may again it may be

the last time we go over there because

if anything crazy happens over the next

year I'm imagining fsu's not getting

invited back but uh the lunch a lunch we

had a lunch I had with it was a two or

three it was probably three or four of

the media members in Leonard Hamilton

and Jimbo Fisher together for lunch nice

over there it was uh that was an

interesting conversation similar

personalities yeah similar personalities

I'm convinced that's the only time those

two men spoke in the entire time they

were worked at the University uh because

yeah it was like they had never seen

each other before what do you do it was

I'm not a football coach

well my favorite part was when Leonard

was telling a story about recruiting in

Miami and Jimbo had to top him oh it's

like come on man the guy was the head

coach of the University of Miami yeah

he's probably got let him have this one

let him have this one and then Jimbo had

to come over the top with one of his and

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those stories especially recruiting in

Miami like talking more than he does

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I remember there were a couple times in

interviews where I would answer a

question that he threw my way and that

he just keep talking I was like you

asked these questions I didn't ask you

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demand now here's Jeff Cameron Ira

chauffeur and Corey Clark so something

to think about here we've spent a ton of

time all of us have uh on Ira's visit

over there to the ACC spring meetings as

we should have right and we talked a lot

about Florida State's efforting to make

more money or leave or figure out figure

out a way out from under the grant of

rights deal well

yesterday the Pac-12 commissioner uh you

know noted there had been no substantive

talks at this time with ESPN or anybody

else for that matter for for that league

right they don't have anything coming

down the pike and it's a floundering

conference and this is the latest in a

series of negative headlines and real

bad news for the teams in that

conference a terrible Omen right Brett

McMurphy reported later that day from

Action Network that Washington State's

president Kirk Schultz said that

Washington State's Athletics will now

have a freeze put on all current and

future vacant positions until further

review as well as a pause on travel

purchases and new professional

development of any kind

due to a significant decrease in monies

and projected monies coming into the

Pac-12 via television contracts or

anything else

you've heard hints and Whispers from

other athletic departments in the Pac-12

that their some programs may just go the

way of the dodo and certainly any plans

on future development football or

anything else has been put on freeze

this is the plight of all the programs

who are certainly efforting to put

themselves in a position to compete or

for that matter

conferences that are effort efforting to

put themselves in a position to compete

and play Big Boy football moving forward

if if a deal doesn't get done this is

what can happen this is why the Panic

this is why the concern with the future

of Florida State football from our

athletic director and from those closest

to the ACC who give a damn about

mattering a year from now five years

from now and 10 years from now yeah

there was a you know one of the comments

I saw a lot on our message boards and on

Twitter

um after you know things kind of the

Dust up last week or the last week or

two along the lines of

how much money do you really need and I

think some of the people at the ACC

meetings made those comments like at

what point

is enough enough does it really matter

if those schools have that much more

money well here's where it does matter

and a perfect example it was right now

softball that we just talked about you

know it's every year I don't know how

many years now it seems like Lonnie

Alameda has had overtures not just

overtures but like hard pushes from SEC

schools trying to get her to come to

come to their School Auburn Texas A M

last year of course there's been several

schools she's one of the top softball

coaches in the country if maybe not the

best and so these SEC schools want to

emulate that success so they're trying

to get her over there Florida state has

been able to counter that the last few

years they've either improved the

facilities given her long extensions and

she just signed another long extension

last year so you'd like to think that

that's all going to be fine but what's

gonna when these when the Big Ten and

the SEC have so much more money than

everybody else now they can turn their

attention to all of these other sports

you've already seen it men's basketball

I mean what the SEC has done in men's

basketball how many transfers the high

profile transfers now are going to the

SEC the high profile coaches are going

to the SEC

so again it's not just about trying to

keep up from an image standpoint or hey

we want to have as much much money as

they do practically it will be

impossible to compete in all of these

Sports if those conferences have way

more way much more money than uh your

company but but let's look at it from

the sport that matters and look I know

people watching the show and the three

of us would be upset if Lonnie left but

it's softball what matters is football

and use it let's say in 2026 Florida

because it by then right Ira won't the

TV Revenue Gap be right like right now

between the SEC and the ACC the gap's

about 10 million per year per school

right it'll be 30 million by then right

probably somewhere in that neighborhood

yes what if Florida just wants Mike

Norvell and they're gonna they they will

have the money to pay him 13 million

dollars a year if they want because it's

going to be stupid money you can't

compete with that and that to me is the

real issue it I mean the real issue is

all of that and all of that matters all

the other sports matter too but for

Florida State's sake being competitive

in football is what made the is one of

the big reasons this University became

this University it was the best program

in the country for four decades and now

Florida get Florida are whoever

Vanderbilt Ole Miss like what has Ole

Miss ever done that they should be able

to pay twice as much for their coaches

you can but that will be the reality in

four or five years if something doesn't

change and I think that's why Florida

State fans there's so much consternation

among Florida State fans and that's why

it's good I think for them to see that

offer knows what's coming down the road

and this isn't going to be tenable like

we all said in the round table the way

it's going right now just isn't tenable

for to compete on a national stage in

football as well as all the other sports

that you're going to get

I agree with you on football I'm just

saying the the I think most people

believe that the school like Florida

State and I think Jeff said it in his

answer they're going to put his main

resources as they have to into football

like they're going to cut everything

else yeah everybody else to make sure

that they can stay competitive in

football so that sucks I mean I get what

you're saying I'm just saying that

that's awful that you'd be put in that

spot where you know you're going to have

to send 90 of your athletic Revenue will

go to football in the rest of the sports

because they in the grand scheme of what

matters and money don't matter and so

that will be that will be a real bummer

but I also worry about just football

like I think

you know if you don't get out of this

thing until 2036 good grief man you're

going to be so far behind you won't even

be in the race no you wouldn't be but

here's the reason I brought it up again

because now you have an actual story

involving a power five conference and

we're watching it get dissolved these

teams are gonna get picked off by the

Big 12 and others it's about to happen

we know this is going to happen and you

want that kind of noise in the system

because perhaps it will expedite Florida

State and Clemson's exit because people

will continue to build on their

conference whatever it is Big Ten SEC

adding Big 12 is going to attempt to do

it too what I'm saying is we're watching

this dissolve right before our eyes and

it's not going to stop there and any of

these conferences that are at a 30

million dollar disadvantage if not more

I have zero chance to compete Michael

Alford was right at that Board of

Trustees meeting when he said it you all

know it it's logical and when I hear

that and I'm just looking at the

pushback within the ACC and Ira you got

to hear it up close and personal from

those that cover other programs and

that's fine they can and whine and

think we're arrogant that was the word

used a lot yesterday when I when I did

an interview on Sirius well it's

arrogant in Florida State to think that

they should be able after they've done

what they've done over the last 64 games

played now get the hell out of here it's

not arrogant this is you're fighting for

your life and of course they're going to

do that they they matter in the big

scheme of things in college football

weight doesn't NC State doesn't North

Carolina doesn't and none of them have

right none of them have it matters and

they care they've antied up that stadium

is the way it is now because they cared

about football and went all in look what

they've put their money in they can't

sit idly by they oughta they ought

to be a pain in the ass they ought to be

the reason that other teams in this

conference are really annoyed don't stop

yelling and I was talking when I was

talking to um Fred McMurphy over there

at Amelia Island also Mark long from the

AP and a couple other people and

somebody made the comment I think it's

what is the Action Network Ira what is

that is that a website or Sports

gambling yeah oh okay all right okay so

he and uh what's his name Revell provide

content to kind of

but uh but we were talking and somebody

made the point it might have been Brett

but it was a good point that nobody

everybody wants to make sure they're not

the last conference right so that's why

like when the ACC raided the Big East

yeah it was to make sure that hey if

somebody's gonna be last it's gonna be

you guys it's not going to be chairs

it's not gonna be us yeah and then the

Big East ends up getting kind of poached

and falters and falls apart now you look

at the Pac-12 they're next up where they

were destabilized they lost USC they

lost you to CLA Washington and Oregon

are trying to get out they don't have a

TV deal who's going to sign a TV deal

when you don't know who's going to be in

the freaking League they're done man so

now they're the one that everybody's

gonna go after to poach the Big 12 is

interesting man because they have a

commissioner that is active and

aggressive so that's one to watch like

the ACC is trying to do whatever they

can do to survive but I do think the Big

12 is is

you know that guy's pretty aggressive

he's business-minded and uh it'll be

they're they're I don't know that I

would assume that they're going to fall

apart

I'm curious to see what happens with

them uh but the Big Ten in the SEC

obviously they've kind of run away with

it the question is who who's going to be

the next to go after the Pac-12 after

the Pac-12 is the ACC going to be next

to go or is the Big 12 going to be the

next to go how is we kind of continue

consolidating this power well and I

think what bothers what bothers all of

us really but people like Jeff and in

Florida State fans in general in people

like you are I'm sure when you're in

Amelia Island listening to North

Carolina reporters who frankly don't

know what they're talking about when it

comes to college football because it's

never mattered in that state it just

doesn't Florida State fans care in the

Florida state Administration cares more

about football than anybody else in the

ACC ever has with the exception of

Clemson Clemson cares too I'm not

disputing that but so yeah if NC State

doesn't get 60 million they've never

competed with George in Alabama they've

never wanted to they've never tried to

be on par with Ohio State they've never

once in the history of that program been

a better program than Ohio State Florida

state was a better program for than Ohio

State for three decades so now you're

now it's it's hard to stomach as a

Florida State fan or somebody that

covered them or grew up watching them

then all of a sudden these North

Carolina schools are going to bring up

the last five years NC States never

mattered it never will so what do they

care if they get an extra 30 million

dollars they're still going to be NC

State Florida State can compete on a

national stage if they're in the right

conference they're competing now but in

2028 if they're 30 million dollars

behind they might not be able to and

that will bother Florida State fans

whereas NC State is used to always being

just kind of marginal at football wake

is used to it North Carolina is used to

it Virginia is used to it Florida state

is not

again if you Endeavor to matter in this

sport that drives the financial bus then

you have to get the hell out of here

there is no future for the ACC there is

none and they can talk about well we can

work on this and it's a Band-Aid for

them and that and that wouldn't have

been different if Florida state had been

great in the last six years of course

not you still have those other

ridiculous schools those other schools

never I mean half of them for a long

time had a track around their football

field it was a bunch of children it

doesn't matter and listen what I've

liked Florida State to have been a lot

better in the last five years in

football well hell yes I would have it

sucked watching this team go out there

and be asked sorry but there obviously

they continued to try to figure out

answers because they cared because they

cared and that extension was not signed

with Florida State sucking no deals of

that big run yo they did what they could

do yeah well it's 129 straight games won

the national championship and we're in

the first ever college football playoff

yes I mean they did everything they

could do it's now and they're about to

be really good again by the way and I

think everybody knows that too and they

were also the most watched football team

in the country oh and again with the

television Revenue when we were asked

that question in the round table how

should we divvy up and screw everybody

else it right now it is

one for all rats are fleeing the ship we

got it that's fine that's fine and and

it upsets people who are at other

schools or other programs or grew up in

different areas well you can be upset

fine be as proud as you want to be of

having graduated from North Carolina

State North Carolina Virginia Duke

wherever that's fine I'm not ripping you

as a person I'm not ripping your

education we are talking about football

we are only talking about football and

you don't matter in football and we do

and we care to continue to matter and

I'd like to think guys I'd like to think

that if lacrosse was the biggest sport

in the country we would stand out and be

like you know what North Carolina

deserves to go they deserve more money

than Florida state with all this

lacrosse money because apparently

they're the best lacrosse team in the

country so I I feel like I almost had

three of the top four in the final four

the ACC almost had three of the final

four teams singing from The Mountaintop

you see what I'm saying gang if only

lacrosse was taken off in this country

like we've been told it would for 20

years have become the the biggest sport

in this country quite hasn't happened

like that but if lacrosse was was the

sport that mattered and Drew all the

eyeballs and got 60 million dollars a

year Florida State fans would be like

you know what you're right North

Carolina Syracuse argument here guys

we're going to have to let him argue in

favor

holding it down for so long but it

doesn't sorry gang the sports that met

the sport that matters the most Florida

State and Clemson are by far the two and

put most important members of this

league and Florida state is the most

important because it gets the best

ratings it has for decades the last

minute here before we go to break and

then we come back with headliner

questions uh it is interesting to me

though and as we continue to watch

the Pac-12 begin to dissolve how

aggressive will the Big 12 be in trying

to pick off teams now is that League

falters because will it expedite all of

what we want to see happen anyhow which

is either the dissolvement of the ACC or

the SEC in the Big Ten and those

Networks

Fox ESPN deciding to be more aggressive

in moving around the chess pieces and

deciding well listen Okay this is an

asset we've got to have this asset and

our best league because that's gonna

long term be something we can charge

extra for household sets all that sort

of thing it does all of this with what's

happening in the Pac-12 I mean it's it's

crazy to think about they cannot find a

deal There's No Deal coming they're

screwed yeah and that's what I think if

when I was saying in the Big 12 is I

think there's a the best likelihood I

would see the short term is the Big 12

coaching the Pac-12 Pac-12 falls apart

and then now you've got these three

you've got four conferences but if they

want to go to the three of three

conferences of 20 which is one thing

that has been out there we've all

thought about the two big super

conferences there's another possibility

of three of twenty I wouldn't put my

money on the Big 12 being the third it's

looking like in these ACC schools kind

of getting spread apart but yeah man so

we'd get to go to Lubbock and no no

mannequin

Louisville would go to Lubbock right

right

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Orthodontics is where you need to go

all right so you know by the way and I I

kind of blew it because we got off to a

rocky start today uh I'll take

responsibility for that but let me let

me just say

I forgot that since we last all got

together the three of us together like

this

well yeah but it's celebrated and I know

celebrated it's a weird word for

journalists to use in this situation the

uh the Keon Coleman get buddy hmm screw

that was uh that was that was was it it

was while I was at Amelia Island right I

think it was Tuesday night Tuesday night

or Wednesday yeah

right right and I know Corey wrote about

it and I talked about it we did a video

about it and certainly you've mentioned

it as well I'm just saying man it's a

big thing to do Florida State it's now

like scary remember Ira wasn't even on

the show last week so it's Annie left

early the week before so it's been a

minute since the three of us were

together you could tell we didn't know

how to act that's why the rocky start

happened I almost walked out after the

first 10 minutes

people were questioning your commitment

to the program they wondered had there

been an impasse creative differences

because when you storm out of the room

in the middle of an episode two weeks

ago and you don't show up the following

week rumors get started Ira that's how

they start let's get started there's

nothing to worry about people I quelled

them I thought I quelled them pretty

well last week when people are uh were

asking all right I I'm glad he's here

today seems to be doing well once we

gather got our feet together we were

good to go once they got Keon Coleman

he's like all right I'll go back but yes

that was that was a very good it was a

very big pickup for the nulls very good

plan and there are going to be some

questions about Coleman in the chat okay

I noticed this on the and the Facebook

and the Twitter I'm like oh I forgot we

haven't really as a trio assessed that

pickup just yet uh Brandon oh writes

where would you rate sander Cox game in

all-time FSU Sports performances first

question that we got from Twitter

I was wondering I was gonna ask you

Corey what do you because there's a

threat on the tribal council uh saying

basically where it ranked all the time

and I was you guys have a much better

historical perspective than I do like

the buster one in that Regional stood

out to me because I mean I've been

covered in Florida State for 20 years

but I wasn't as invested as you guys

were before that yeah

I mean I don't think it goes like this

Jesse Warren's catch just in the

softball that's higher right it wasn't a

it wasn't a whole game performance but

one moment but also but doesn't the

stakes though matter more

like where where was Jesse Warren's

catch we had an Oklahoma City oh and

then game one of the you were there

it was game one of the championship

series you were what is the matter with

you all right

you were there it wasn't when the game

was on the line it was the seventh

inning of a one to nothing game and they

were trying to butter to Second and if

she Dives and doesn't get it it's first

and second nobody else Stand Down Ira

this is a more important play at fsu's

lore so did you think it was a a Monday

it was like a Sunday in April against

Louisville I thought it was like in a

regional or also I was out there yeah it

was Oklahoma City were you out there too

number one I was in a Chili's watching

it

but so Ira Ira's not the best person to

ask this question to clearly

I don't remember anything I would say

um when you think about the stakes so if

you just make it postseason or a game

that gets you to postseason I don't know

we can't I can't rank them I mean I

would put it below Charlie against

Florida in 93 I mean you know your pla

that got Florida State to a national

championship game we don't even know

where this softball team will end up and

so it's really hard to rank Duke

yeah I mean I would still I don't know

man I look and it's awesome that it was

a perfect game but there are a lot of

shutouts in softball it was it was it

was kind of cat sander being doing

what she always does which is being

awesome but I still don't know if I'd

put it above some of those other ones

yeah I I have a hard time with the tooth

the sub

ject

Regional talks

sub-regionals in 30 years

there's Subs supers World Series

that's how Chef's always lived his life

he's lived his life I walk around go

look at this sorry ass sub Regional out

here

doesn't mean a damn thing uh idiot and

if they had lost two years in a row in

the sub Regional I'd have been really

pissed when you broke into the business

Lee Bowen was like the sun this is a

sub-regional yeah yeah it's not a big

deal you're never you're never adapting

but it was awesome it was really it was

really it was really cool to see it was

a really awesome moment for a really

really good player it that that is

correct that's a good way of saying it

we do live in a time where we want to

exalt and Vault everything towards the

top of a list they're gonna have to do

it I like Corey being the voice of

reason in this topic it never happens

this is a guy anything as the greatest

moment in the history of humanity and

here he is like guys can we settle the

hell down we're bumping Cowans off of

Mount Rushmore cat sander Cox face is

going up after that performance Matthew

writes hello gentlemen thanks as always

for the great content week in and week

out after Keon Coleman committed I

texted a friend that our opponents will

need to score at least 28 points to even

have a shot of being in the game so

let's say the race is the 30 every week

I'm not super confident in our defense

this year but I'm less confident in our

scheduled opponents offenses and their

personnel is there anybody on our

schedule outside of LSU that you believe

is capable of scoring 30 plus points

against us this year yeah Clemson yeah

yeah and the problem with Clemson again

it's just again you're you're not you

don't know that your offense is going to

play that well up there A lot of times

teams don't

um

what's cool about the addition of

Coleman though I was thinking about this

before we started the show was that um

you know it it it lengthens that's

probably not the right word to use your

margin of error you don't have to be

even you don't have to have a even a a

minus game or a B plus game to win most

of these games because your offense

could and should overwhelm so many

defenses that

even if you don't play particularly well

on defense or maybe even Jordan Travis

isn't that sharp you still should be in

the mid 30s you you should go into every

game outside of two maybe Florida at the

end of the year we'll see what they are

but the two big ones in September every

other game you should go into that game

with it with 35 points somewhere in the

neighborhood 34 to 35 points even if you

don't play all that well that's how good

I think this offense will be and you

haven't had that in a while does that

make sense am I did I explain that well

probably yeah I mean there's no doubt

that's a big deal and I think the

defense is fine

um yeah but it only has to if you have a

top five offense in a top 25 defense

buddy that's a recipe to be playing on

New Year's well not New Year's whatever

they whenever the playoffs are now

December 19th who knows when they are

but that's a good recipe to have

yeah I I think the schedule is hugely

beneficial to Florida State I think I

agree with what we heard from uh Matthew

there in the question that most of the

teams are not capable of scoring 30 puts

but there's two teams right now that you

picked up probably a team that rises up

that we always say there's a team that's

going to be worse than we think they're

going to be and there's a team that'll

be better than we think they're going to

be that a third team out there where you

would maybe posit that they could score

30 but listen I again I think early on

against LSU and in the fourth game

against Clemson if Florida State's

defense is showing you that they can

stop the run which was a problem against

good teams last year it wasn't like

teams just lined up and chucked it all

over the lot the teams that really had

success throwing were teams that came

out running the ball successfully

Florida ran the ball really well

against Oklahoma ran the ball well early

against Florida and it was against the

defensive front that was pretty banged

up yeah and so we saw that year ago so

if you're a guy who has to be you know

in the camp of wait and see I get that

but there's real reason for Iris

confidence for example that the interior

the defensive line is going to be worlds

better just by being healthy and deeper

and I think that is true now I mean

there are other areas of concern but I I

feel pretty good about that and I do

think Florida State's going to boat race

a lot of teams on this schedule I know

this sounds cocky but you know listen

they blew out seven teams a year ago uh

before they had fully realized what

their offensive potential was and this

schedule kind of sets up for them to

blow out at least seven again at least

seven maybe more there's some games

where this gets into the Jordan Travis

Heisman talk how much he's going to play

in the second half of a lot of these

games I I don't know uh good day chance

writes Marlon I know everyone is in love

with the SEC especially since we are in

the South but if we were so if it was

solely about money and winning

championships the Big Ten could give us

more money wouldn't you choose them and

a much better shot at being in the

12-team playoff year in and year out

than say the SEC

I don't think it gives you that much

better a chance I mean if Florida St

Clemson joined the Big Ten well then

you're still playing Clemson every year

you might be playing Michigan and Ohio

State USC I mean that's a hard schedule

in itself and I wrote this in the in the

round table is I'm not supposed to say

that or am I supposed to pretend we all

sit there around a round table and talk

and it's like a transcript

okay all right um but we do sit around a

table and talk and then uh

um Langston transcribes it Gene a lot of

typing

um that if so I don't care if the Big

Ten gives Florida State an extra five or

seven million dollars it doesn't go into

our pocket and the experience for the

fans

is would be so much more benefit they

would love the SEC so much more that you

can you can say no thanks to an extra

five million dollars you would still be

very very competitive on a national

stage clearly if you're in the SEC and

your fans can get to the games and the

weather is better

yeah I don't think to me it's not a it's

not a trying to get every penny out of

wherever you can go it's about being

competitive can you be I'd be fine with

them staying in the ACC if they could

stay competitive financially they just

can't in fact I'd probably prefer it but

you can't so you got to pick one of

those other ones if you can get in there

and you know at that point if you're

choosing between the two yeah the SEC is

I think the obvious choice let me see I

want to dig down I don't think you'd

prefer it Ira I think you've been away

from the SDC so long that you don't

remember what it's like to go into those

stadiums like I know you you don't love

snuggy Hill you don't love Boston

College I mean imagine instead of going

to Boston College you're going Ole Miss

are you getting old cowbells well here's

the thing man like that that's cool

enough but it's also cool to go to cool

cities like starfield's not all that

great Corey what how dare you how dare

you I'm not trying to install our new

overlords take us on the show already

all I'm saying is I think they're the

because I can't speak out of both sides

of my mouth when when Jimbo is leaving

and he kind of trash forward to stay on

the way out one of the things I said was

man you did you never resp you never

appreciated the fact that you had the

talent base in Florida and you got to

play in the ACC yeah and I think there's

a benefit to that there's a competitive

Advantage oh absolutely what he's facing

in the SEC so you know I could see where

it makes sense to stay in the AC if you

could you just can't financially I just

like as college football fans we all all

are it's just so much more fun to go

into a full stadium with fans that care

where there's not a fair right next door

and people are leaving at halftime or

don't know what the score is that's what

that's what's always bothered me the

most I guess about the ACC

uh afternoon gents writes Walter

registers sausage dogs with peppers and

onions at the flex this Thursday and

Friday night can any of you name another

null other than kepka that has had a

sander performance thanks Corey

like cat did on Sunday

yeah I called his performance sander

cockian on wake up war chant because I

wanted to be the first and only podcast

that would compare Brooks's performance

to a college softball players

um no man he's by far asinger won what

two did azinger win two majors I think

azinger won one major

uh Hubert green one too somebody won two

somebody in the annals one two but uh no

man and it's really look I don't know

what kind of dude Brooks kepke is I

don't know anything about the guy but I

thought he was done playing golf at a

competitive level I think he might have

thought he was done and it's really cool

to see somebody battle back like that

and become arguably the best player in

the world again out of when when he

almost it seemed like he was ready to

almost

never be competitive again that's a cool

story and it happened quickly

yeah I think that story is always

universally cool if it's a comeback

story it's a comeback story yeah my

significant injury and they get back to

the top it is uh at Irish fell Tom

writes directly to you not not us not us

it's not you buddy okay have you ever

seen a coach that invests and genuinely

cares for the success of his peers at

his school in other sports the way that

coach Norvell does

that's a good question and the reason

he's asking that I think is because

Norvell has been so active not just on

social media yeah but man he's sitting

out there in those softball games it

ain't just like to stop by and wave he

sits at the softball games there's also

a couple of cool moments I thought um

during basketball season seeing him and

his wife and daughter at uh the women's

basketball games and then also

there's a couple times where like you'd

see him go reach out to like other

coaches like he's he seeks out times to

go talk to Leonard Hamilton or to talk

to link Jared or whoever the coaches are

uh Brian Penske the soccer coach I mean

it is uh again man it's not the reason

you want Mike Norvell to be your head

coach it's not one of the top 20 reasons

you want any head football coach you

want them to win games primarily but if

he can win games and then also have that

kind of those relationships it's a nice

little cherry on top and he is he is

sincerely interested in all these other

teams at a level yeah more than any

football coach we've seen I mean coach

Bowden was sweet man and everybody left

coach Bowden but he wasn't going hanging

out at a softball Regional you could go

play golf yeah and what it does is I

think it just speaks to a bigger thing

that people also enjoy and that is that

somebody cares about the University from

which they work

you know I I think that's the big thing

uh for whom they work I mean I I you as

a fan or an alumnus or a supporter of

any kind booster whatever it might be

it's refreshing because it can't see a

lot of it yeah and you care deeply about

the Guard we're using FSU in this

example obviously you care deeply about

the garnet in Gold it's nice to see that

your football coach who's getting paid

six seven eight million dollars a year

also seems to care about how the other

programs are doing and I think it's

genuine or else you would people

wouldn't gravitate toward as much I've

heard well I've heard a lot of people

make mention of this that Mike seems to

be genuinely invested in other programs

he was definitely invested I was out

there on Saturday and he was uh he was

on the whatever that overhang is by the

by the with the platform with the VIP

people and Cat Center got out of a jam I

guess on Saturday in that interminable

game against UCF and he legitimately

stood up and goes you yelled loudly way

to go cap like loudly like yeah like he

does on prac on the practice field when

he's yelling at somebody to run the

right route it was that same energy so I

I don't think it's just for show and by

the way still a drop dead handsome

good-looking dude when you see him in

person cool thanks for sure Stephanie is

uh happy you brought that up

uh quickly we had a question in the chat

I'm trying to now I'm doing a trio all

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this is what I'm doing here I'm trying

to hold it down after a shaky start we

got out of the bases loaded Jam earlier

I'm not sure we got out of it I think a

few runs scored oh we've rallied back

and uh and Wendy wants to know that some

people say the SEC doesn't want us do

you think that is at all true

I think there's there is a there was a

reality to that definitely 10 years ago

I don't think Florida wants us but yeah

tough luck buddy yeah and I would say

two things change so 10 years ago then

that has been the mentality for a long

time and you know 10 years ago that was

the talk that the SEC has no interest

because Florida's not going to let you

in just like South Carolina wouldn't

want Clemson in yeah the two things that

have changed is one what they did to

Texas A M by bringing in Texas and

basically saying screw you Texas A M and

I'm over we don't care I do it we're

bringing in Texas yeah that happened and

then the other thing is that the

pressure from the Big Ten yeah and the

idea that hey would you say you know how

people say they they're

what is this stupid saying about I get

madder when I lose and I get happier

when I when I win like I I hate losing

more than I like winning I I think I got

it right

maybe the SEC doesn't want Florida state

that much but they really don't want the

Big Ten to happen right so that's that

could be the driving force they wanna

they want the Big Ten not to have

Florida State maybe more than they need

Florida State but they really don't want

the Big Ten to get Florida State and

Clemson because yeah you talk about a

playing field getting leveled real quick

that does it

and just the kind of the explain kind of

a little bit deeper and the reason for

that and the reason where Florida

doesn't want Florida State in and why

some of the schools wouldn't want they

already have the the two things you

really want when you have a school when

you expand a conference is you want to

go into an area where you can get more

money for television rights in an area

where we can get better recruiting

access so if Florida if Florida is

already in the state they're already in

the SEC the perception is you don't need

Florida State you already have the TV

sets you already have the recruiting

base

so you know whereas a Virginia might be

more attractive or North Carolina might

be more attractive well you don't have

those two things but where things are

different now is you don't want the the

SEC schools don't want the big 10 come

in here either because now if Florida

State were to go to the Big Ten now

those schools would have access to the

TV sets in the recruiting base that

right now they don't have so if you

could monopolize it by getting Florida

State now the Big Ten at Florida State

went with the SEC the Big Ten would

definitely be more interested in Miami

at that point because that would get

them in the state so that part of it is

is going to be there's some jousting

going on it's a fascinating idea that

the Big Ten could be in Los Angeles and

Miami yeah yeah good Lord and would have

20 schools in it and still call itself

the big deal and I think we're just

moving in that direction and that we're

sitting here watching the Pac-12 Fall by

the wayside all of it does kind of make

you sad

I mean it's hard not to be kind of sad

at where college football is going but

you also can't be in denial as to where

it's going Sean writes I was born in

late 1977 which means that every year

I've been on the planet FSU baseball has

made the postseason if you're 45 years

or younger you can also State and make

that boast I think that Demands a moment

of pause to appreciate the length of

that Excellence also to appreciate how

fortunate we've been as FSU baseball

fans to have enjoyed the kind of success

that we have for as long as we have

brighter days are ahead see you in Omaha

one day soon I promise Elite head

aligner Sean it's not a question but it

is an observation hey what a finish to

the season though gang yeah they did I

mean they did continue to play hard I

mean they bought into Lynx messaging at

least I mean that's a philosopher all

Louisville had to do was win two out of

three against the worst team in the

conference and they got they would have

gotten to the ACC tournament and they

couldn't do it over the last it is a

weird you know somebody texted me

yesterday and they were like so

baseball's just done done like they're

yeah

how it works man you uh Chris points out

though before we break that FSU baseball

may have missed the postseason for the

first time in 45 years but they did win

the last game that they played in a

season for the first time and that's why

link was hired link was hired to win

that last game and he's did it baby he's

already done it his first he's not

getting a bonus I mean maybe he had that

in his contract he won your last game

you get 100 Grand on the links boozing

it up with his extra money yeah civil

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chauffeur and Corey Clark let's keep it

rolling Michael writes I've seen a

couple articles saying Norvell is now

King of the portal my question is what

do they mean by now seems like he's been

the king for a while is it the national

media just waking up or is Jermaine

Johnson a figment of my imagination no I

I think most have recognized that that

Mike is Elite but uh there are others

that uh do a good job in the portal as

well but I think I think Mike is most

consistently won uh that title well and

as good as Jermaine was right they went

five and seven so you can't really

you pronounce yourself the king of

anything if your team doesn't have a

winning record doesn't go to a bowl now

it's he's hitting in the portal at a

really high rate and they're a very good

football team

Jason wants to know can JT and will JT

throw for 4 000 yards this season

uh and he and he gets into some of these

games and Champion ACC Championship Game

bowl game assuming 14 games all of that

yeah he could but I don't know that he

will yeah I actually just wrote a story

there's a story on warchant.com about

looking at norvell's quarterbacks the

longer they're in his system and really

every quarterback he's had and it stands

the reason you get better as you get

older and more experienced but it's

really remarkable when you look at the

quarterbacks going back to this Arizona

State days and certainly in Memphis from

year one to year two they make a big

jump and this is kind of like year two

and a half this is like year one and a

half for Jordan you know he didn't start

all of the year before he started eight

games split times with McKenzie even

when he was starting some of those games

McKenzie ended up coming in so Jordan

didn't finish them

last year was really his first full

years of starter I think you may see

another jump for him and I think we saw

signs that in the spring I thought he

looked better in the spring than he did

at any point the whole year before

he threw for 3 200 yards last year

obviously that didn't include a

championship game if they get there he

also missed a half of football against

well he missed more than a half because

they were beating so team so badly

bought a hat for half the second half of

those blowouts yeah so Syracuse he threw

for 155. uh Louisiana Lafayette or I

guess is it just Louisiana now is that

what we're saying sorry uh 112 yards you

know that he threw for 181 against NC

State which they could have used more

there but like uh 202 against Miami on

10 completions he only threw he only

completed 10 passes against Miami it

only completed nine against uh Louisiana

obviously I think if you have a player

that's in the Heisman hunt you're

probably going to give him a few more

bats than 10. uh and he's going to throw

for more than 100 yards in but they're

going to blow a lot of teams out yeah

they're going to run the football very

effectively I just think that's what

will happen he could get there though

it's not out of the realm to think he

could he could average another whatever

that would be

50 or 60 extra yards a game I think they

could maybe do that I'd love for

defenses to stock up against the run and

then he gets one-on-one yeah then he

could light it up but it just depends on

what defenses want to take away Marty

writes hey fellas what is uh what is

first half of FSU football that is oh

what's the first half of FSU football

that has made you the most frustrated he

writes two come to mind for me the first

half in the 2016 Ole Miss game give up

28 points Dalvin fumbles out of bounds

then last year the second half against

NC State where we could not get anything

going I appreciate you all Corey I'm

gonna I'm gonna go first here because I

have a feeling you're gonna jump on this

as well maybe the same game the 95

Virginia game on the road where we just

decided to throw the ball uh a hundred

times as far as we could throw it yeah

it's the zip Fountain special offense

over and over and over again and we'll

remember that that team didn't have a

really good running back so they were

forced to throw it they were forced to

throw it yeah so it was so aggravating

then in the second half we run the ball

and work done's going nuts and uh you're

like hey imagine wouldn't be in a

position where you're about to lose a

football game for the first time ever in

this conference if you just bother to

have some balance in the first half so

that that he threw uh I remember it he

was I think he would I know he threw 68

passes Canal did I think he was 33 of

68. Imagine a game with 35 in

completions in your five you're four

where are you one inch away from winning

the game anyway yeah you want him out

and they haven't even worked on the play

where you the receiver that's the past

down like that wasn't even part of the

auction they say that for Virginia like

whatever that was 16 years later

Virginia had no idea that was coming I

would still say the probably the most

frustrating happened I think many people

watching and listening to this would

agree is 2012 second half against NC

State that was gonna be mine all-time

frustrating half the one last year

against NC State the second half last

year against NC State is right up there

with it but holy moly that one I think

early on in the second half you're like

okay man there's a chance they're gonna

blow this freaking game and then by the

fourth quarter and then into the point

I'm like okay they're gonna lose this

game all-time frustration uh Anthony

Ira go

Jonathan wants to know what's the deal

yeah so uh Mike Norvell it's not

official yet but uh on three Matthews

one of the national reporters for on3

reported that uh Mike Norvell is going

to bring in Anthony in an off the

field role again this is just one of

those you know hires that they make

whereas you only get to have 10

assistant coaches they can actually

coach on the field but a lot of schools

are building up their support staff

Florida State's done that you know

they've run in Corey Fuller they brought

in several scouting analysts they've had

they've got several analysts on both

sides of the ball this is another one on

the defensive side of the ball a guy

that played in the NFL has coached in

the NFL he was a position coach coaching

the secondary for the last four or five

years in the NFL so it's a nice guy to

have it and also it's a nice position

where if maybe two years down the road

if you if you lose another assistant

coach maybe you move him to on the field

so looks like a really smart hire by

Mike Orville

I thought that was thorough and I knew

you'd go there all right well done by

the way the women's golf team lost to

Wake Forest didn't matter because they

missed a three-foot putt that would have

won then they lost an extra holes it's

uh not cool I would like if uh one of

the golf programs that's been very good

for a number of years would go ahead and

uh win one of these things it's allowed

the men have a chance let's go Trey come

on now skill rights I don't think enough

is being said about ESPN and the ACC if

the ACC dissolves then so too with the

ACC Network you all touched on it a

little bit but it would not surprise me

to see us in the Big Ten ESPN will be so

pissed at us for dissolving their crappy

Network well you know what I I I don't

know man I think we should look at this

in another way

um ESPN's probably controlling that

conversation as opposed to FSU

yeah I mean who's pulling the strings

here FSU or ESPN

yeah well I mean it depends on where

they go I mean ESPN would not want FSU

to go to the Big Ten

um correct and then you know they did

and that's one of the things that you

know John Swafford will talk about all

the time and Jim Phillips talks about is

the fact that the ESPN is a partner

they're a 50 50 partner in the ACC

Network and that's yeah okay fine except

for the fact that and I asked Jim

Phillips this last week I said you talk

about them as being Partners but they're

actively playing they're actively paying

other conferences more money a whole lot

more money yeah man and I'm not saying

that the ACC schools deserve as much but

I am saying that if you're investing in

the this league and you it matters to

you how this league does you have to

understand that this league is going to

be crippled by the disparity in the in

the in the payout I came up with a great

oh go ahead Jeff sorry really quick

sorry on that point

doesn't it sound like you know how

people get brainwashed and then they

just regurgitate the thing that they

were told to say over and over and over

again

I feel like that response every time I

hear it is what they were told when they

were putting the network together we are

Partners in this we are so glad to

partner with you

50 50 Partnerships this is where it

should be and that they were reminded

that they were 50 50 Partners repeatedly

as they had growing concerns with

overwhelming evidence all around them

that that partnership wasn't going to

get them a hill of beans it was going to

lead to a whole bunch of ass kickers

what's it matter if we're 50 50 Partners

in broke and go to hell with that 50 50

part of nonsense I'm dissolving my 50

you can suck it I'm out and they and

they're all no but we're 50 50 Partners

as if that's a thing that Matt go to

hell amen Amen brother so I was thinking

don't they do these looking things Ira

you know more about that stuff well

here's the deal so they were supposed to

be lookins there was at least one look

in I know from when John Thrasher gave

me the date

um of one and I think they I think ESPN

looked in and was like oh it looks good

to us because I don't think and I asked

Jim Phillips last week I said are there

any more look-ins where they might

reevaluate that and he said uh not in

the immediate future great I think they

have looked in and they've said okay it

looks good to us so when I think if you

could somehow finagle away where you you

convinced Jim Phillips look we want to

stay in the ACC just like Alfred said

after the meetings like we love it here

we want to stay forever

um you convince them you want to stay

but we have to restructure this contract

get us out of this contract and we

promise we'll stay but you have to get

as closer to the SEC in Big Ten and then

as soon as they dissolve the grant of

rights to renegotiate the new contract

that's when you bounce to the Big Ten

say sorry we were kidding like remember

when Carlos Boozer did that in free

agency he was he had one more year left

on his deal with the Cavaliers and the

Cavaliers were like look we'll make you

a restricted free agent because Boozer

was like look I'll sign with you all

tomorrow for six years and 40 million

dollars I just read up on this for six

years and 40 million dollars if y'all

restructure my contracts I don't know if

you get 700 000. and like okay yeah sure

so they made him a restricted free agent

the next day the Jazz sign him for six

years and 70 million

it's awesome though what a great move

for Carlos Boozer it's 30 million

dollars but he told them apparently he

told them yeah man I promise I'm not

going anywhere just restructure my deal

yeah just make me a restricted free

agent and I'll sign this is an image of

Alfred running down the hallway of the

Ritz Carlton going I pulled the Boozer

they fell for him he's a Duke guy how

would the irony

uh Jake wants to know which Reserve

linebacker will have the most impact in

2023

I'm excited about uh Omar but I think DJ

Lundy's I'm kind of excited about Omar

Graham uh FSU plays rights when you

started this show in 2010 did you ever

expect it to last this long didn't

we

um how quickly did you realize the show

was a hit and what's the most

frustrating part with working with a

diva like Corey Clark we can start there

oh yeah that'd be the rest of the show

no it's not frustrating we just let him

do it and we just let everybody laugh

yup hey Corey's from his Corey's not in

town again guess we have to look at a

screen as far as uh when we started the

show I don't know none of us envisioned

how long it was going to last but we I

think we just all liked it like we like

doing it and then we would hear from

people that you know and it was funny we

were at uh Aslan now worth of softball

uh tournament this weekend and the young

a guy came up to us and said he's in his

40s now I think he says 40s I'm going to

age you buddy but he said he grew up

listening to it and aslan's like come on

man you didn't grow up listening to but

he was but he's from Tallahassee he's

listened to it for a long time yeah he

grew up listening to you Jeff well I

hope you I hope my man's not 29 years

old and you just mistook him for in his

40s he might have been in his 30s hey I

don't listen so good I don't remember

that I saw Jessica Warren make the

greatest crazy do you remember the

Kelvin Benjamin catch Ira were you I

think did he play it officially yeah you

know when we won the National

Championship in 2013 it was an amazing

moment yeah you were there Ira that was

not against Duke in October yeah the bus

ride over the stadium was incredible

remember yeah you remember that one and

Corey and I sat next to each other

remember that course yeah we did yeah

and then I uh I was on the show the next

day for a little bit because you were

broadcasting from the hallway oh Better

Days

when we started the show uh this show

you know Iron Jeff had had a 10-year

relationship or whatever been because

you've been coming on his show forever I

had probably hung out with you Jeff I

would guess twice before we started the

show like I didn't and I'd been here for

a couple of years I'd run into you a

couple of times and we I think we went

to like a dinner with Bob Thomas one

time but I think yeah but I think I'd

hung out with you two or three times

total and then now uh you know you're

gonna be the best man at my wedding

sorry Ira you're gonna be the ring

bearer I just said about being invited

so all I remember is that and I'm

arrogant about radio because I know I'm

very good at it so I remember thinking

this is a good show so it was over once

I'd thought that I knew it was a good

show I was right and that was the end of

it we were going to continue to do that

show and once we got Jim Lamar's

coughing ass out of the studio hey come

on destined for greatness and I say it

with all the love in the world Jim Lamar

who's coughing Somewhere listening to

the program right now Jim AMR changed my

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come on man Warriors are at uh the

Yankees starting tonight

they need to the last series didn't go

that well

Braves lost the Dodgers last night Corey

they did Freddie Freeman hit a three-run

homer and had two other hits that's

always fun to see and he uh used to play

for you guys he did Ira thanks for

bringing that up it's fine he luckily

he's fallen off a cliff since he left he

can't he's he barely hits the ball

anymore

will be our best wide receiver next year

that's from Matt

I I don't think so I thought I'm still

Johnny still my guy what year is Keon

how how was was that red shirt I think

he has two years but was he a red shirt

freshman last year I believe so but

either way that was his first year of

really competing like at that level

the the point I'm trying to make is he

did all that

players get better he might be like a we

have no idea we haven't seen him but

he's obviously shouldn't improve from

year one to year two just like you think

Johnny will improve and get better but

but if those if both those guys take

another step

come on man you might have other than

whoever Marvin Harrison Jr's partner is

out there you might have the best wider

one two wide receiver duo in the country

or close to it I mean that guy's a real

good player with Jaheim yeah and Trey

and that's why and I think that's that

guy we didn't talk too much about Kim

Coleman before but I do think What's

significant about them getting him is I

think the attraction of this Florida

State offense with Mike Norvell calling

the plays Jordan Travis and quarterback

these other weapons I think is how you

get a Keon Coleman it's a huge I mean

it's a huge huge deal I think uh I'm

gonna continue to repeat over and over

and over again that the addition of Cam

Coleman to an already fairly prolific

offense just a year ago with an added

you know threat on the other side of

Johnny Wilson to go along with those

tight ends with the depth of town on the

offensive line the talent running back

and obviously what we've seen Jordan

Travis Advance his career to now where

he's a sure thing means that four state

will have a top five offense in the

country period and there will be

prolific numbers from week to week put

up by somebody within this offense what

we do know is that it changes you know

they never ran the same exact scheme

week to week last year some teams they

knew they could exploit just running a

freaking counter see Miami I mean they

could just do whatever they wanted over

and over and over again other teams they

knew they had to throw the ball in order

to open things up in the Run game I

think they're going to be able to

exploit defenses any way those teams

want to play it and I think it's a

nightmare if you're facing Florida State

next year if you're a defense and then

posing defensive coordinator I'd hate

that matchup because if all else fails

in place breakdown the quarterback's

going to run for 27 yards and get down

and it's First and Ten real quick just

want to give a shout out Darren Hill in

the chat I think he might be behind on

the live show but he threw out there the

uh for for the worst tasks or most

frustrating half 2019 versus Boise State

that's up there that second oh the

second half absolutely I mean yeah you

know hotter than Hades I was sitting in

the stands for that one well yeah

remember the team got dehydrated and

that was so frustrating yeah but it

wasn't because

it was so frustrating because not only

did you know not only because it was

you're losing that game but I think if

you if you had any doubt about how it

was going to end with that regime that

probably the pain oh that was so bad

over and over they made that kid looked

like he was the next coming of James the

quarterback yeah he went on to be

average in his career but boy they

walked out of there thinking he was

Jesus that was awful so I've heard you

talk about this is uh Panama Knoll could

you talk about conference realignment

but if you had to create your own 10 to

14 team conference with any current ACC

uh Pac-12 or Big 12 team

who would it be what would it look like

hmm

so I'm going to take a big 12 team I'm

gonna take a Pac-12 team and then put

together the rest so what we're doing

here I mean I can take as many as you

want from the Pac-12 I want Arizona

State

I just lost Washington Oregon I'd like

to go play uh if Utah in Stanford Utah

Colorado get an invite no

no I mean that's a nice place no they're

not coming they're not coming Utah

barely gets in because they're uh well

it's like a dry state right like you

can't even drink caffeine there they

also continue to win the damn conference

I know I would say ACC it's it's uh

Clemson Miami

probably North Carolina the Wake punt

them into the sun you never have or want

to play them again by Tech no yeah sure

well you don't think so it's a cool

tradition they think Metallica before

the game and everybody hops around

uh Big 12 anybody from the big 12.

current version well Oklahoma's there

one more year so I'd take Oklahoma yeah

that's a cow that's a technicality come

on it's not the spirit of the question

uh so what remains of the Big 12 I think

TCU yeah

I don't even know I'd do that I would I

take DCU Oklahoma State

nah I'm not going out to those cow pokes

yeah UCF nope

what about what about would you take

like so if we're projecting markets and

size and all that do you take a Houston

do you take a Baler do you think you

know I mean no way with Baylor no chance

with Baylor Houston

maybe you could talk me into Houston or

maybe TCU because of the markets right

um Baylor no chance Texas Tech no chance

Kansas State none you don't want to go

to Waco and hang out no no it's always

I don't know why it's like something

happened like in my childhood that made

Waco kind of this weird place in my mind

and it's always stayed that way you

don't know why I can't I can't put a

finger on it also 7 000 degrees and it

would be that'd be a tough it's a tough

one that you could you could come up

with a competitive Florida State and

Clemson and Oregon and Washington

Arizona State that's not bad and I like

Virginia Tech more than Jeff does I

think I do too yeah I'm on Virginia no

no no no no no hold on I like Virginia

Tech just fine you're always trying to

kick them out well they don't do

anything for you they're in a sorry

market they don't win they're garbage

but the fans the fans show I love that

they care and I've been on that campus

and had a game there but it's just

I don't that's where you were behind the

uh Rhys Davis saying sucking Clemson

yeah that's right blew up that night it

was crazy uh Rob writes gentlemen happy

Tuesday to you I've seen so many

journalists and pundits alike either a

Snidely questioned Florida State's

position to challenge the ACC grant of

rights or B clearly clearly lampooning

Florida State's chances of doing

anything to free itself out from the

fourth place muck that we've grown so

fat and happy living in question what

retribution off the field should be

visited upon these arrogant myopic

naysayers

well I haven't had a chance to exert his

authority just recently over there in

the fine setting that is Amelia Island

you know do you think David Hale out and

slap him in the face I did not over a

drink but you know here's the thing like

two things one is I get the jokes like I

get I I get the idea that when you're

not having success it comes across as

weird that you're demanding more money I

get that on the face value but it's just

like not very intellectually

accurate to not consider the fact of

what you bring as a brand that that part

of it is relevant and it's like they

don't even acknowledge it what Wake

Forest does on the field doesn't

freaking matter because they're Wake

Forest let me look into the camera and

tell you they're awake for us they could

go 11-1 and it doesn't matter they're

not going to bring in more money to this

conference so stop saying that I just

wish they would stop saying this

which is soon

let's go in there like a gang let's go

in there ready to do some damage guys

let's go in there Corey it's an

opportunity for you to wear a shirt in

which you unbuttoned it down to your

navel which you I was thinking just a

vest like a vest and nothing else like a

leather vest or something we're not the

Village People

you've been trying to get attention

that's why I lift all them weights it's

so I can wear assless chaps to ACC media

days hey if you wear the assless chaps

we'll let you lead if you go right into

that beautiful hotel across the street

from Bank of America I mean I would

dress like that before I wore there's no

way obviously clearly I would not do

that but I would I would dress up I

would love to dress up we could dress up

like Reservoir Dogs and send them to

your friends but I'm with Ira man like I

get sick and tired of hearing that

Florida State should just like their

role as if the ACC Network wasn't

created on the back of Florida State

right and even then like people make

this argument like well what's Florida

State done the last four or five years

Florida state was the best program in

the country and they couldn't get a

network in this stupid conference so

don't act like Florida State's success

on the field means anything I've got to

wear the assless chaps now I talked

myself into it and with that I'm cutting

your mic we love you goodbye that is the

end of Corey talking for today for I'm

Jeff thank you director Matthew be well

everybody we'll talk to you next time

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