Published June 1, 2023, 7:20 a.m. by Bethany
On The Listening Post this week: How the media get caught up in North Korea's diplomatic games at the Winter Olympics. Plus, July 15, 2016 - the date turkey got a new national narrative.
pyeongchang 2018: sport, politics and the media games
At the opening ceremonies of the 2018 Winter Olympics, athletes from two countries still officially at war - North and South Korea - marched into the stadium together, under one flag.
Those images of a momentarily unified Korea were beamed around the world and will have registered in washington.
Wherever they light the Olympic flame, there are going to be geopolitics in the mix. But these games, given where they are, and the governments involved - have taken Olympic politics to another level.
Jung Woo Lee, lecturer in sports diplomacy, University of Edinburgh
Andray Abrahamian, visiting fellow, Pacific Forum CSIS
Sung Yoon Lee, professor of Korean Studies, Tufts University
Richard Gizbert speaks to Listening Post producer Tariq Nafi about:
Unilever's threat to pull its ads from Facebook and Google
the Indian journalist fired over a tweet criticising the country's media
Sometimes a date on the calendar becomes synonymous with an event, a seminal moment for a new media narrative.
September 11, 2001, is the most obvious. But for Turks it's July 15, 2016, the day when a botched coup attempt left hundreds dead and thousands injured.
Since then, turkey's media - increasingly intimidated by a government that has arrested hundreds of critical journalists - have played a vital role in framing July 15, 2016, as an ongoing explanation for the challenges facing the country, and as a way of crushing dissent.
Ali Saydam, columnist, Yeni Safak; honorary chairman, Bersay Communications Group
Ragip Duran, columnist Arti Gercek; Broadcasting Council, Arti TV
Bilge Yesil, assistant professor, City University of New York
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hello I'm Richard gisbert and you're at
the listening post here are some of the
media stories we've been tracking this
week five rings two countries one flag
if they handed out medals for spinning
the story North Korea would get the gold
July 15th 2016 the night turkey got a
new national narrative or at least
that's what the government and the media
that have its back would have you
believe
Facebook Google fake news and hate
speech governments can't seem to fix it
maybe big money advertisers can and
Egypt where the security state gets down
with the kids an omission Iowa school
due to kolenda yeah you had it was a
case of let the games begin and cue the
propaganda the politicking and the
punditry at the opening ceremonies of
the Winter Olympics athletes from two
countries still officially in a state of
war North and South Korea marched into
the stadium together under one flag
those images of a temporarily unified
Korea were beamed around the world and
will have registered in Washington how
about the site of kim yo-jong the North
Korean leaders sisters shaking hands
with South Korean president moon jae-in
right under the nose of US Vice
President Mike Pence if stealing the
show was Pyongyang's intention the media
played right into its hands offering
extensive coverage of the delegation
from the north wherever they like the
flame there are going to be geopolitics
in the mix but these games given where
they are and the governments involved
have taken Olympic politics to another
level our starting point this week is
Pyeongchang South Korea
not every picture tells the story not
every image is worth a thousand words
but the right one in the right place
time and context can pack a bigger punch
than a hundred sound bytes for a million
tweets an image like this one athletes
from two countries entering the Olympic
stage under one flag
it's a great photo-op it makes for some
good pictures it does sort of bring the
sense of potential in the sense of
optimism at least briefly for that
sports event but it doesn't necessarily
mean unification is around the corner of
course there's an element of spectacle
to it but it was also meaningful I think
you demonstrated that the two Koreas are
trying to work something out at this
moment one in which the North Koreans
have developed a nuclear program now
there's a lot of tension between them
and the international community and just
having that group walk in together
doesn't erase all of that so you know it
is a moment that suggests hopefulness
and a lot has been said about the u.s.
vice president Mike Pence and his wife
choosing to remain seated while tens of
thousands of spectators including North
Korean and Voice and the South Korean
president were standing up and
applauding wildly Mike Pence came across
as grumpy boorish insensitive actually
quite offensive if a charm offensive is
to work the recipients must be open to
persuasion and it helps if they're
gullible Pyongyang will have been
pleased with the way the Western media
received kim yo-jong kim jong un's
sister with the world watching the
Olympics she will put a young telegenic
face on the regime there is no denying
the significance of her presence at the
games given that kim yo-jong is the
first member of north korea's ruling
family to ever visit the south but
before falling under her spell western
news outlets might have done some
homework and considered her day job
propaganda is what kim yo-jong does
as the head of North Korea's department
of propaganda and agitation she does run
a very important department that
department makes sure that North Koreans
have few if any real access to outside
information that they remain in the dark
and that department also does its best
to restrict the flow of information out
of North Korea none of that was broached
in reporting on kim yo-jong only the
fact that she exuded the softer image
that she smiled for the cameras that she
looked modest and sincere the appearance
of the kim yo-jong may be seen as a more
propaganda show to may create more
peaceful more loving images of North
Korea but from the viewpoint of the
inter-korean relations and this is a
very important political breakthrough
given that she was the first the Korean
ruling family members visit to the South
Korea so in that way is a very very
meaningful political breakthrough
in Pyongyang kim yo-jong became the
temporary face of an authoritarian
country that is politically dominated by
men Kim jong-un represents the third
generation of a family dynasty a
patriarchy that has lasted for 70 years
but when North Korea ventures onto the
world stage and in front of the news
media women do a disproportionate amount
of the PR work in addition to kim
yo-jong the government sent more than
200 cheerleaders to the games it's not
the first time they've been sent out but
journalists can't seem to resist them
the cameras were drawn to the women like
moths to the Olympic flame the media
again a male-dominated media is just all
over them desperate to try to get a
response from them you see it's sort of
a game in the South Korean media - can
you get one of them to answer a question
because they are really quite
tight-lipped other than when they're
cheering in a way it's almost a
propaganda failure because of how
regimented and organized they appear it
can look a little bit weird sometimes a
little bit sort of stiff it's sort of
what you would expect from Western media
because they really like this narrative
and especially like the cheerleaders
really fit into the caricature that
they've built of North Korea and this
idea of it's this Potemkin village and
their fascination with how synchronized
they are and how brainwashed they are
and how controlled they are support
staff surround the cheering squad the
athletes the art troupe
all of the delegation would be under
24/7 surveillance he says they wouldn't
be able to go to the bathroom alone and
it sort of revealed how little the
Western media knows about either Korea
and how little they understand about the
situation in home is unpredictable
the international news media treat North
Korea as a potential geopolitical
flashpoint Media in South Korea see the
North differently as an existential
threat news outlets based in Seoul are
typically split along liberal and
conservative lines liberal outlets are
more open to accommodating Pyongyang
conservative ones are usually much more
hardline but on this story and the
bilateral meeting between kim yo-jong
and the south korean president
moon jae-in the ideological gap in the
south seems to have shrunk because of
the stakes the Arsenal's and the players
involved not all of whom are Korea
on the left you have editorials cheering
moon jaein on saying this is a very
important moment of outreach and
possibly a bigger breakthrough on the
right instead of being critical of
Montaigne editorials are saying things
like this is good just be careful
the gap between left and right is
relatively narrow I think because South
Koreans generally are very worried about
the United States right now we think the
Olympics will go very nicely and after
that who knows
we'll find out that President Trump is
way too willing to risk war on the
Korean Peninsula so there's sort of a
unity of opinion across the board left
and right looking for a way to defuse
tensions and move on most of South
Korean newspapers and South Korean TV
feature that littering between South
Korean president and important protocol
grade through Daniel Chong Shanghai
tomorrow to meet Hawaii underseater
ninja
another Korean war will break out then
South Korean people is the one who saw
for most I saw any kind of sign any kind
of gesture from the north to communicate
with South Korea is have to be seen as a
possibility that no other way the
wall-to-wall coverage of this story
comes with cracks significant gaps in
understanding the South Korean media
know little about what goes on in
Pyongyang the international media don't
know their way around either country
either story and the vast majority of
journalists parachuted into the Olympics
are sports reporters unschooled in the
world of geopolitics for the Kim's of
North Korea this was more than a photo
opportunity it was a propaganda
opportunity and they took it
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we're discussing other media stories
that are on our radar today with one of
our producers Tarek Nava Tarek one of
the world's biggest advertisers Unilever
now talking about pulling its ads from
both Facebook and Google why so Unilever
is trying to succeed with its
advertising muscle where governments
have failed with their regulatory powers
Facebook in particular is facing
criticism for failing to remove hate
speech misinformation fake news and
extremist content and the company's
founder Mark Zuckerberg began the year
by announcing that the site had tweaked
its news feed algorithm to prioritize
what it calls more meaningful social
interactions it's by no means clear
though that that will solve those
problems and Unilever which owns brands
like dove Vaseline and Ben & Jerry's ice
cream has announced it will pull
advertising from Facebook and Google and
left those companies clean up their acts
and one Unilever executive actually put
it that you know some of these platforms
are little better than a swamp so how do
you read this move is it about
principles or is it about profits I
think it's clearly aimed at protecting
their brand Unilever doesn't want to see
if ads alongside content from white
supremacist for example and it's become
increasingly clear how little leverage
government's actually have over social
media companies to force them to change
their ways hitting them where it hurts
the billions they make an ad revenues
could prove to be very consequential
especially if other big companies follow
Unilever fleet the other story you've
been looking at concerns an Indian
journalist anchor canted Chakraborty
who's been fired over a tweet first of
all who is she chakrabarti was a
political editor at online outlet daily
o which is owned by the India today
group last week she tweeted this from
Mehrtens turning a blind eye to hate
mongering fake news spreading anchors
editors reporters and writers or hiring
them in the first place must be tried in
courts as hate speech enabler proper
tears a tweet didn't name any names nor
did it really get that much attention at
first but it was clearly too close to
home for chakra parties bosses at India
today anyone who follows Indian media a
new Chakrabarti was probably talking
about particular anchors
some of whom are in India today's
channels are important chronically Hindu
like you who John boutté Kareem semana
pasada uncle's like Rohit sadhana Gaurav
Sawant frequently put out incendiary and
sometimes completely false information
on air and they're not the only ones
doing that in the Indian media this is
the time for revenge okay so what
Chakrabarti was describing is a very
real issue on the Indian airwaves and
she paid a price for that yes she did
her job senior editorial staff for India
today meant to discuss the tweet and she
says a week later she got a call from HR
saying she had three options
delete the tweet resign or face being
fired saying she refused to be censored
she chose the latter and the company
however said the Chakrabarti broke their
rules on editorial conduct
okay thanks tarick sometimes a date on
the calendar can become synonymous with
an event a founding moment for a new
media narrative September 11th 2001 is
an example of that for Turk's there's
July 15 2016 when a failed coup attempt
left hundreds dead and thousands injured
now such dates tend to come with a
ready-made enemy or at least a scapegoat
and the Turkish government has a bit of
both in what it calls the fethullah
terrorist organization or pheto a
movement led by a reclusive Islamic
cleric based in the US for Tula Gulen
back in the early 2000s gülen's
followers were allies of president air
diwan's AK Party by 2013 however they
had fallen out politically and air21
labelled the movement a parallel state a
shadowy threat to turkeys democracy
after July 15 2016 the government
rebranded Gulen and his followers as
terrorists The Listening Post will young
now on the Turkish media's role in
framing the coup as an ongoing
explanation for the challenges the
country faces and as a way of crushing
dissent
understand little burning in the album a
little clean it wash basket into there
instead Akasha buon anima lonely that
checked on the agenda ha the media
narrative has really played an important
role for the AKP government and for
present I want to disseminate a
particular version of the event
which you're gonna need you know to care
Gossage in Atari bogies your cotton
Darvin andy jillian yonder soft
from the soldiers and civilians killed
and injured to the bullet scarred walls
of government buildings from accusations
confessions prosecution's and
recriminations a new national narrative
has emerged in which Turkey is beset by
an enemy within the fettle a terror
organization to be known henceforth by
the acronym feta David some journalists
who want to defend the state also want
to keep the 15th of July high on the
agenda if you consider the character the
texture the intricate structure and the
sophistication of the organization that
we've fought against on the 15th of July
you will better understand why that day
will not be forgotten the hunted barely
bit homage to most propaganda see the
government is trying to keep itself in
power of the back of the propaganda of
15th of July even before the Qura tent
came to an end the pro-government media
were very quick to label the coup
plotters as members of feta this
discourse has continued unabated since
that date judaculla rock they vomited in
truth the Gulen movement and the ark
party coexisted and cooperated for years
before relations soured Gulen ists took
top jobs in the judiciary in education
in the police and army and had
significant holdings in the media but
that history has no place in the current
government discourse which has gülen's
followers infiltrating turkey's
institutions to form a parallel state
when that organization attempted to
seize power by force it was only
president early ones
timely and effective mobilisation of the
popular will that stopped them however
while their coup attempt was thwarted
their supporters are still being outed
all the time not only in the courts but
in trials by media so when a new decree
law is announced and people raise their
concerns about the implications of that
decree law usually the first response
from a programmer in conduct
are you a member of the feta boo army
darken and psychologically fit in
England all the negatives this becomes a
vehicle in for silencing oppositional
voices and for discouraging people from
asking questions not only about feta in
general about any government policy to
the issue of feta and Turkey is not an
easy thing to grasp it is a movement
which was so well hidden that many
journalists supported them unfortunately
some are saying that there have been
unjust investigations and prosecutions
against feta such as cases against
journalists but we need to distinguish
between true journalists and those who
really call themselves journalists
according to president Erdogan and many
in the Turkish media the influence of
feta even extends to a court in New York
where late last year
Reza's Arab a turkish-iranian gold
trader admitted to running a sanctions
busting racket trading Iranian oil for
gold paying millions of dollars in
bribes to senior Turkish ministers along
the way za robs testimony implicated
oder one in his son Bilal but viewed
from Turkey this is all part of a feta
inspired international conspiracy hog
Hume a federal judge has a link to
feather the prosecutor has a clear link
to settle one of the witnesses is a
fettle member who fled Turkey this is
all linked to an Turkey stop playing the
international role expected of it and
started to pursue its own destiny this
hostility will continue at first the
government and pro-government media
refined massive importance to the rod as
a valuable Turkish
however when syrup started to cooperate
with the prosecutor's office the
prosecutor the judge and the entire US
Justice Department were declared
reaching he's - although not the odorous
book et rajo-guna Julie conscious in the
Berlin not too
of course Biff isn't a credible
narrative there is a discrepancy between
the reporting of the zurab case by the
Turkish and the international media the
international media look forward to
seeing information against terawatts
against his ministers and against Turkey
his fight with the military has been a
long time coming to man who has
tightened his grip on power by jailing
thousands of political opponents at home
50,000 people have been arrested a
hundred and fifty thousand people either
lost their jobs or been suspended
following the 15th of July the silence
of Western actors seemed to say that
they were sad that the coup had been
prevented this made journalists who
thought Turkey in the West share common
interests reconsider their position
Aaron was in France when the French
journalist asked him a question about
Syria and president Aaron was not happy
with this question and he asked a
journalist if he was a member of feta
all of these international and domestic
developments can be explained as part of
this international conspiracy against
turkey persecuted by enemies abroad
infiltrated by enemies within most of
the Turkish media have now closed ranks
around a state sanctioned narrative that
appears to explain all of this in terms
of the failed 2016 coup attempt
meanwhile hundreds of journalists have
been arrested their news outlets
shuttered or taken over by government
supporters the result is a media
landscape where the only story is the
July 15 story the program of media is
serving the same political narrative and
the same political objectives as aired
one and the nkp government obviously you
know their political agendas are very
much aligned and because they serve to
propagate the message from the party and
and from the president we can see
several similarities in terms of their
narratives is AMA eighty to ninety
percent of the media in Turkey has been
under government control for a long time
and they report with one voice that is
communicating Edwin's views solely
within the last year we are seeing what
we call the presidential palace media
fighting among themselves to prove who
is more Pro adilyn who is super ultra
super ultra pro adilyn's super arrow and
rule that I came there a little make-up
of Shamar why should let the stories
that a nation tells become how that
nation imagines itself collectively how
it understands its victimhood its
identity and its destiny if the turkey
July 15 was the day everything changed
narratives around the failed coup and
feta are a new national creation with
one that with so much of the Turkish
media behind it is rapidly becoming a
new national reality
and finally kids just about everywhere
like to spend time on YouTube and when
they do that in Egypt they might learn
how to become police informants somebody
at the interior ministry thought it
would be a good idea to produce a
cartoon designed to do that it features
two boys reporting some suspicious new
neighbors to a friendly policeman uncle
Nabil now not everyone sees Egyptian
security forces in such a benign light
the NGO Human Rights Watch for example
recently said that the interior ministry
oversees an assembly line of torture
what follows is a slightly scary
snapshot into the security state that
Egypt has become under President Abdel
Fattah el-sisi but at least the kids get
some chocolate out of the deal we'll see
you next time here at The Listening Post
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