"She's A Political Football": Panel Divided Over Shamima Begum's Story! | Loose Women

last night a new documentary about one

of the UK's most controversial figures

shamima begum aired on the BBC she is

one of three London schoolgirls who

travel to Syria in 2015 to join the

Islamic Estate Group aged just 15. now

she's telling her story from the Syrian

refugee camp where she's been living

since having her British citizenship

revoked in 2019. some say she is a

threat to National Security others argue

she was a teenage victim of grooming and

trafficking whatever the answer she's

definitely no stranger to controversy

and you got to watch the majority of

this documentary Kelly and it is it's

very divisive that we we got a reaction

straight away from the audience there as

well and you're either almost one way or

the other with it aren't you but where

did you stand after watching I think the

sensibility that she was 15 is

definitely there it's definitely you

know it's evident that there were

conversations that happened within

within her school there had been an

incident before the letter didn't get to

her family which so all of those

discrepancies did happen which if I

think you know if the family were warned

at least they would have been more

alerted to the probability of her

joining so there is all of that to kind

of underpin everything but I think there

were key things and key messages within

the documentary that's kind of still sat

me in the in the in the seat of a

reserved position as in my concern like

Rehabilitation so when you get back you

know we've had previous cases with with

people like Usman Khan who was brought

back and he was rehabilitated supposedly

but then went on to reoffend and cost

people's lives so for me it's about the

training that she received while she was

there yes we know we're not

um privy to the fact that she was

actually you know responsible for any of

those deaths but she took the decision

to go and join Isis and also within the

documentary there was a point where she

was actually shown the videos of what

Isis is responsible for and I my heart

goes out to the victims there were

British people who were kidnapped and

executed under Isis and those families

have now got to see that person that was

that had joined a regime of that you

know who what kind of person joins a

regime that knows that that's a

possibility and that's what they do and

that's what they stand for I know that

she said that she thought it was about

you know her faith and being a Muslim

and being protected and all of those

things and I get the sweeteners that

enticed her to be there but I also think

there's a sense of responsibility that

has to be taken also

um what do you think Gene in terms of

the argument that she was a young girl a

naive girl who was who was easily led

into something that she just wasn't

fully aware what was going to happen to

her and certainly not aware of the fact

that she might be able to get back home

again I mean you know we

Patricia's not sorry just to add she

does say that in documentary she does

say she was aware that she wouldn't be

able to come home so when she was

leaving she did say that she was she

wouldn't that she wouldn't get home but

but here she is wanting to as well I

should yeah

all I will say is anybody here that has

got a daughter you know when they get to

the age of 15

they can be a little bit malleable they

can go they can get in with the this is

an epically wrong crowd but listen

I'm sort of a bit on the fence with it

but I do believe that everybody has a

right to tell their side of the story

the way I hate the world going now is

that they keep saying you can only hear

one side of a story you should be able

to hear both sides of a story you might

not like what you hear but you can then

make an informed decision on what you

think about the situation rather than a

narrative that's been fed so I do feel

that she has the right to say her side

of the story

um

almost though in a way she's become a

political football and actually the more

that she does the more that compounds

that because she is so high profile now

that she's become that sort of

um the poster girl if you like for Isis

Brides now there's an awful lot of Isis

Brides as they call them who have very

quietly been rehabilitated back into

Britain and we know nothing of them

they've just gone back to ordinary

westernized lives

um she however because she got

discovered in this refugee camp and now

is giving all these interviews has

become this

sort of very public figure and any

government that says okay bring her back

is going to get shot down in flames and

then the other thing is you've got all

the other people that think that she

should be given another chance who are

shooting them down in flames so it's

very very difficult but

my personal view is and it's just a gut

feeling she is now so high profile that

she wouldn't be a threat and what I

would do is I would

bring her back to Britain she's lost

three babies she's been through an awful

lot so have the families of the victims

of Isis I agree with that

um but I would put her out on a school I

would say right you can come back but

you're working for the government and

you are going around schools

where we have issues with what we think

are young people being radicalized and

you're going to go into those schools

and you're going to tell them exactly

how it is I I I I have my concerns over

um the authenticity of her regret

because the the times that I've seen

that there's been no remorse and it's

you know I think that you can easily say

something that you think that you have

to say in order to get what you need and

if yeah you can go and you're on the

front cover of of a a a very popular

magazine if you don't want to talk about

it you have the choice to say no or yes

and she's chosen yes for her own reasons

so you can't go back and start blaming

the media I blame the media that puts

put so much

um

I've been put on the media so much but

what is there to obsess over well if

there's nothing to come off the media

don't don't do the interviews yeah well

this is exactly where we're at