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Published June 30, 2023, 11:20 a.m. by Liam Bradley

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see also honorable

because a lot of people are wondering

what exactly is his surname is he a boss

or touching him but we understand that

tajudin is his son name

352 vote honorable it is a former deputy

speaker from plot to say three vote and

honorable three vote that's how you went

down on the House of Representative but

all of these did not go down without

some criticism those who believe that

well Justice may not have been served

but the APC knowing full well led by

balatunable now know that they have a

hundred percent but the president had

said look this victory that they've had

they cannot take you for granted and

forced they are not uh rely on the

resting on their us and they're just

focusing on the goal let's speak with

the man who led the campaign for Senator

August Senator Ali indomie who told us

on this program as uh Senator Balaton

with the president is 100 backing

Senator Godzilla public even when it

does look like things by Boomerang and

it may not go the way of the APC Central

Into Me Maybe congratulations might be

in order isn't it yeah thank you very

much

you guys did not sleep yeah you were

working overnight because what we

understand is the senator Yari up until

early the wee hours of today was going

to was causing to Victory but you guys

perform some magic what was it it was no

magic it was politics more more politics

you know

what alhamdulillah you know it turned

out the way we wanted and I think it's

it's good for our democracy it's good

for the country

and now we feel that this singular Act

of today

will give all Nigerians

sense of belonging God has a way of

doing his things you know

the way this politics

that played out

um if people sit down to do critical

analysis of it goes out to show

that some of the considerations that

people

out there talk so much about do not

really really matter

for example I'm a Muslim

I was the one that nominated campaigned

vigorously

for the imagines

Senator Godzilla

and he was seconded by a Christian

and then on the other side

senator

Clifford a cliff

ishaku cliff

nominated was the campaign leading

campaign member of Ira and he's a

Christian from the north from adamawa

State

and he was seconded by jimo Ibrahim from

interestingly is understate I think

so you can see

that religion that people hype on

it's not the real real thing that people

put into control consideration but

interest

and also interestingly

we have 54.

members of the Christian faith among us

out of the 109. we the Muslims of 55.

you can see how God does it many people

don't even think about that

and the words turn out

to be 63 against

46.

you cannot Place who what it who or how

so what happened how did you guys do it

tell me about it maybe we can learn some

of the politicking that goes on how did

you guys swing it because up until very

late because I was the opera tonight

trying to find out what is going on in

each of the camps and there were

assurances and in fact those in your

Camp were afraid that things might go in

the way of Senator Gary I don't think so

I guess you really said myself oh my and

we have three court chairman

and the governor of nature or the coach

chairman and I was the DG

and also interestingly I said this

morning early this morning

or when we close our meeting in the

morning today

we did a real analysis

and we came up with 62.

and we've got 63.

who is this is the third person I don't

know you didn't factor in

no we we analyzed we thought that you

thought that you were going to get 62

votes yes but you won the votes that you

are sure of was 662. because we had six

seven I said the last count we had the

dinner sometimes

well we had people that sign on to us

again who had a number was went up from

72 to 76.

but when we sit we sat down to do a

critical analysis we said look let's not

deceive ourselves look at you look at

this

we came up with 62.

so the president on his own side had

instructed the governor of the IMO state

to also lead the execution committee

from the APC side of things so does that

really add up or does that really help

in any way yeah from the outside yeah so

many factors help us outside and as

usual

you know when I contested last time

everybody was on the other side

in the government you know because the

president or the government or the party

then endorsed our Milan

uh it's always a reputation of the same

thing

um the party and the president had a

preferred candidate

but

this President because is

experienced politician played a lot of

politics in it so he deployed his food

soldiers to complement our effort and

that made a difference the vice

president was on it he himself was

calling some people

and this afternoon we visited the

presidential who called people Yeah by

himself he went to some people even

it's politics he went to visit he

sneaked out and visited some people

begged them to

you know but and he has his reasons as I

said I was convinced his reasons are

convincing we you know up initial get

somebody from South house

in the Senate President

or get somebody

because the South South didn't have it

since 1999 now we have changed or made

history by having somebody from South

South and as you can see from day one

when from I don't know whether you

listen to or you watch the the

acceptance speech or it's monitoring

okay you see that

opapio has what it takes to deliver

and we are there too to give him the

support the president is an experienced

politician he is a senator

I said it

s vice president is a senator everybody

is virtually the chief of staff sgf all

these people are from the legislative

they have legislative experience and

that means they have they are connected

to the Grassroots and I think actually

the

the renewed hope that is the Mantra of

Mr President who is is manifesting

already let me let me our viewers to

listen to what Senator part of world

Senator God's real party he looked a bit

relaxed yeah

um maybe he wasn't looking too official

like the way a manner a lot of people

may have I said look a bit relaxed very

unofficial was even cracking jokes about

his wife and how beautiful she is and

what how supportive she is the fact that

even his daughter I was also in the

chambers at that time and was event

there was any senator who was younger I

was lucky to be able to cite the

daughter but I mean that was on a

lighter note at that moment just to let

you know that I monitored throughout but

take a listen to a portion of what

Senator because you are probably who is

now listening president what he said and

he's inaugural speech

let me think

the president

for the choice of Senator girls as

senator

and also thank the party the all

Progressive Congress from the zoning

system that brought all of us and

especially thank my colleagues my

brothers and my sisters in the 10th

assembly the 10th senate for voting for

us across party Alliance

this is the way if we shall continue to

be together

whatever will happen here we will think

Nigeria I will dwell on Nigeria and I

will make a very big difference I assure

you

that my reputation persists me my track

record is there for all to see we'll

bring about uncommon changes in the 10th

senate or the federal republic of

Nigeria

that's the portion of his speech he said

on common change that is what it would

bring and its track record perhaps it's

talking about what he did in akwa ibom

state yeah and that brings me to what

the Senators on this 10th National

Assembly will be bringing on board

there's a bit of distrust a public

distrust in a public institution these

days those who believe that those were

in government are just there for selfish

reasons

how can Nigerians be certain not sure

that you guys have the interest of

Nigerians at heart when they start

seeing the results of the actions

and that is what you know

were bent on doing because

the Senate particularly

it's an institution full of expectations

it's supposed to be the Senate

historically was formed to stabilize the

system

provide

leadership in the country

and that has gone down continuously

and now we are at a level where we have

to do something in order to regain the

confidence

of Nigeria so that we lost

the extent that the Senate as an

institution or us some of us as

individuals who are called names

extension of the legislature I mean the

executive and all that and that has to

change because the president as I said

was the legislature

and he knows what are the Constitutional

rules of

the legislative arm of government

and for

for him to succeed

you will actually need to encourage and

yes or studied already

the institution to do its cause to play

its constitutional role that is of

effective oversight and making good laws

for good governance and also supporting

policies of government

that require the support of the

legislative arm of government what is

the focus of this 10th Senate what are

you hoping that will give assurances

because there's no matter what you say

your action needs to speak louder than

your voices these days to be able to

impress Nigerians Nigerians believe that

you guys just get a lot of money get to

luxury vehicles and drive around Abuja

and doing a little less to what they are

being paid compared to your colleagues

and peers in some part of the world and

they do not even see the reason why we

should have two chambers of the National

Assembly based on the poverty level in

the land

well you're making allegations and some

of those things that you have said is

true

if you look at it vis-a-vis the

situation in the country

and also the workload

I am one of The Advocates that look

under this circumstance maybe you should

even consider looking at the cost of

governance from the legislative arm of

government

but if you critically analyze it also

you will see that for example we have a

I think 21 trillion budget this year

out of which what goes to legislature is

less than one percent or so but you know

at once what 100 it used to be 100

billion for the legislature that is

aside the you know Capital interventions

in the budget but what actually goes on

into the legislative arm of government

as recurrent expenditure

is negligible compared to what is being

spent the bottom line Senator is what

would you be doing what is it we are now

saying we have a ten point agenda that

we read out

as to what we want to do look at the

laws that creates bottleneck in progress

like our tax laws we need to review that

we need to review how we take loans what

we do with the loans and how we pay the

loans with what benefit will it be

we need to use you know the abundant

is it is resource persons that will help

to bring the institution what I mean by

that is for example 76 or more number of

Senators are not returning they are

going with the experience that they

acquired for four years because there is

no Handover notes to the incoming we

need to have them close into the system

so that they will help the system grow

we also planned we also plan to

make the legislature

or the legislature of government

especially the Senate an institution

where we rob ideas discuss my I mean

discuss issues extensively

for coming up with a decision as to

maybe support the government or approve

because I like the loans

in those days whenever they bring loans

you just sign on to it not knowing the

implications not analyzing it critically

not throwing it open to the public to

have their input but this Senate will be

more rigid yeah I don't want you to use

it okay so the reason is that there are

a lot of allegations on the issues of

the ways and means yeah which uh the the

Senators have been criticized about that

how come you've approved such an

enormous amount

um have you did you was there any kind

of due diligence that was done with the

benefit of hindsight there are a lot of

Nigerians who feel very sad about how

the ways and means process and approvals

came from the Senate and maybe in a

manner in which it was approved yeah I

agree with you I was permanently against

the way first of all I feel that we

don't have the right to do what we did

because I was illegal is that what

you're saying but you say you don't have

the rights well I don't know especially

if I'm involved I don't know I don't

know whether I want to say I did

something illegal

in the Sun

but the National Assembly is supposed to

approve

not to rectify

what we did in the case of the 23

trillion

23.7 trillion

Ways and Means

the from the CBN was to rectify I don't

think there is anything in the

Constitution

that allows us do you regret that kind

of situation I was looking at what

happened for me personally for the

institution or our system I feel very

bad but for me personally God knows I

tried my best

raised the issue on in November when it

came up

and then this we set up an ad hoc

committee and let me even tell you that

for that day when they when they

approved that that Lord who are kind of

ambushed some of us that are very

critical you know representing officers

or officers have a smart way of doing

things well if they look around it's

Lumia around or whoever is going to be

critical if they are not around you

bring supplementary

order paper I mean

a lot of things that a lot of Nigerians

are now looking at how come this thing

this very controversial things that are

happening on the day of your you know of

the valedictory there about two or three

statements that were made that that got

people thinking

um you mentioned another one now uh

Senator bukachua making reference to how

he prevailed on his wife to help some of

you uh your colleagues in the National

Assembly

was also questioning the emergence of

Senator Ahmed Lauren back into the

Senate and how Judiciary the road it

played in I mean in in politics and some

of these issues it bothers a lot of

people doesn't it bother you too it does

but you know people are caught in

between

what is right or moral

and what is social

my wife is a high court judge my first

wife

you know

and when people know

that your wife is a judge

especially your friends

to put pressure on you

we're all humans

depends on how strong you are to

stand against this kind of a thing

sometimes especially when

the system itself

is more or less compromised

or can be compromised

then you'll be tempted

but I like is courage for confessing

publicly even when he could have decided

so you know I think it would help

system people to look in what look at

yourself

and say well

and you believe that what you did was

wrong

the best things come out to say I did

this and I'm sorry for that

maybe that will help

others that will be tempted to do the

same senator

what Assurance can you give to Nigerians

tonight

of what to come from your Senate

distant Senate because you are

you you you you carried the burden

and people will remember that you are

one of those who preached

your brain so we owe you accountable if

there is any kind of failure no I don't

think that is right

okay hold me accountable I I didn't

force anybody to vote but you must have

gotten some assurance that is the best

that's why you said he was the best I

believe he is the best but I don't know

what he would do tomorrow

I'm expecting that from what I have seen

I've known or public for four years he

was a minority leader while I was a

majority leader and I know it's somebody

that is intelligent is passionate about

some issues and he destrobialized he's a

qualified lawyer he was a minister he

was a commissioner he had all he has all

it takes to do what Nigerians expect

the the likes of those who are very

aggrieved the likes of Senator Shea usan

I mean he just imagined of how he met

Senator kashim shatima the vice

president and the president president

and the those who believe that when he

stepped down he was one of those who

believe that the north central will be

marginalized in the in the scheme of the

arraignment for the National Assembly

presiding officers it he and some of his

likes play any role in today's victory

of your party yeah

I was with him we are very close we were

together up to this morning we tried to

convince him and finally after a

president yeah president met him

and spoke to him he's one of those that

President contacted personally and I

said he had he had reason to be agreed

um actually the balancing was not

really tailored out well because

the north central

as we say you don't have the prince any

of the presiding officers

and but

I said last time here that the president

is conscious of this

and I guess that

was one of the reasons why he went for

the yeah

and I think that is not the end the

government is a big

sister Institution

there are so many things right now

consideration like if you look at it

the appointment of sgf

to me it's more

important than the British general

president

Senator let's anchor on this note

there are some unusual things that

happen today what

usually by tradition the election

happened first in the Senate the

proclamation read on this fall on the

senate election will happen inauguration

will happen the Senate then the clerk

and the deputy Clerk and his team will

move to the lower chamber to read the

programmation letter and inaugurate the

lower chamber

but we understand that there was a

strategy of your team to ensure that

this happens simultaneously no it wasn't

and I remember earlier than 10 o'clock

now the usual traditional time no I

remember

that um

I remember that after our

election was conducted

the clerk told us that he's moving

the house was simultaneous no it was

simultaneous we watched we covered it we

put it on TV who presided over the

deputy clerk oh I didn't know that that

was simultaneous we thought that was a

strategy from your team

I'm not aware of that and you know so

unusually but you know it's usually

around around 9 10 o'clock when it

starts well you've been one of the

longest serving lawmakers so you should

remember some of us who have money for

several years wait let me tell you does

that matter anyway for the first time

for a politician wait now for the first

time in the time I remember

109 of us were there

and that's just a number of Senators

109

everybody voted there was no

um this besides small this in the half

one initially and as you can see it was

more or less of displaying your interest

pushing your interest but were 109 there

let's go to Siri again thank you so much

and congratulations again thank you

because I know it's not so easy when you

carry on this kind of project honestly I

slept like a baby and you can see I'm

still very

not so you see I have a lot of Sleepless

time because Nigerian some of us will be

watching and we keep our eyes on you

guys why and to ensure that you deliver

to Nigerians what you're promised no I

have my own responsibility on that you

hold every I'm not a senator but my

business your senator of the federal

republic yes but I'm not sure

thank you so much for coming tonight I

appreciate it you're welcome we take a

break and when we return we get yet

another perspective or some perspective

because I have other lawmakers from the

house of reps maybe you do not agree

with senatorial on how things went we

getting the perspective right after this

record

thank you so much everyone for staying

with us on the program let's get back to

the conversation now to focus our

attention on the green Chambers the

house of uh Representatives

um discuss what happened today honorable

some type of errors in the name of

Senator judge I mean honorable Judge he

was honorable sudden solely I think when

I was writing that I was thinking that I

was on the program so uh two things were

on my mind at the same time so touched

in about 353 votes three votes three

this was

three votes I mean joined Now by

honorable one of those who were in the

race at initial stage but stepped down

is of the APC from katsina stage and uh

is an opposition member from Plateau

State a member of the PDP thank you so

much gentlemen for coming on thank you

you stepped The Honorable

you told me you were going to go the

whole arm what happened we went to uh I

win the whole house what was the trade

about

um there were a lot of Dynamics playing

out remember we're doing politics and

politics is a it's a game of give and

take and uh we went to Industries we're

switching the president of a country and

the vice president of the country uh

prevailed on you appeal to you to step

down and I think if you're a reasonable

party man you should give in to those

people and that's exactly what I did I'm

well I'm a background

parliamentarian I'm a good party man and

I respect elders and for the fact that

the President should say please give it

to me

I think any reasonable citizen

do that and I yield it to the president

well I understand that you're one of

those that the president was begging up

until very late in the night why did it

take you so long well actually let me

correct one thing the president was not

begging the president was putting reason

persuading you yes was trying to

participate he was plead he pleaded on

behalf of the country on behalf of the

party and we saw reason in his uh plea

and we accepted this plea and he was

very grateful and I applaud the

president and the vice president for uh

for proving that there are they have an

open door policy they are open to

listening to people and then playing the

game of politics and the game of

politics were actually played uh with

some level of dignity and respect for

someone's right to ask her the president

did not deny anybody to Aspire but he

put reasons for doing one thing all the

other so the treatment was dignifying it

was dignified it was not accumulating no

no no no no no no no the president was

making I was more persuasive it was

persuasive and and

proving that the government is a big

elephant

and I applaud the president for how do

you describe him

he's an honest person he's someone who

is passionate about the country and uh

because of his age because of what he

has gone through politics he has learned

to give and take

he he believes in the politics of give

and take so what is he giving you

I can't say he's giving me something but

he has opened to certain concession

which is uh between my discussions and

uh which is not fair for me to to the

body so it's personal it is personal so

you are taking and he's you're giving

your votes just because he's a gentleman

let me ask honorable because what was

your Arts for someone else and you voted

for another person just like one of your

colleagues said today

well or your heart was where you voted

absolutely

because as opposition

uh one of the things that we have

resolved to look into is that what kind

of opposition do we even want to put up

on the floor is it a senseless position

and opposition or a sensible opposition

so I have to look at those Dynamics uh

that our supposition party number one uh

none of us is contesting so we want to

put a a proper opposition we should be

able to look at those sensible

opposition uh issues that we need to

look into so we all resolve that look if

we really want to to give it to the

ruling party

what and how they have been able to

convince us that look this is why they

need touch the numbers and the reason

why we need to support

and and and again looking at the issues

on ground why we were being voted by

Nigerians to really give them sensible

opposition on the floor on issues that

has to do with the well-being of Nigeria

and Nigerians not about the issue of

speakership you know as much as a

presiding officer will be able to put in

his gavel on issues that have to do with

laws and other areas so looking at what

we have been able to do is a collective

resolve not that our mind was somewhere

our mind is where we voted for and that

is where we are going to put in our

opposition full force with all the

weight if Nigerians did not get the

dividends of democracy on why they voted

us into power so our mind

you left your brother was in the in the

in the rain it's not about leaving my

brother when it comes to National

politics or when it comes to issues that

have to do with national interests it's

not about Brotherhood it's not about

party it's about issues it's about

ideologies about looking at what can we

collectively

at what point a lot of a lot of things

we didn't tell you that we were with any

candidate by the way as opposition if

you have followed us we were never at

point in time with any of the candidates

looked at the fact that the north

central

I mean on the Yusuf Gandhi honorable eat

this one all of those who said look if

you want to talk about marginalized I

mean you are also from Plato if you want

to talk about if you want to talk about

the not Central then which means you

personalize it to me but if you want to

talk about the issue of who becomes a

presiding officer it becomes have to do

with the issue of the entire opposition

so the entire opposition is not looking

at not Central it's not looking at

Southwest or it's not looking at

Northwest it's looking at who can we be

able to trust with leadership and

Mandate of the presiding officership but

the issue of North Central that is

personal to me so and the opposition

party if you recall all we have sat down

with all uh the uh the aspirants are

even uh right from us only here we had

an interface with him rather interface

with each and every one of them so it

was and it is our resolve that at the

end of the day this is the person we can

really hold accountable because it's

better to hold them agree hold them

accountable if they fail not to go the

other way and if they fail we'll say

well you couldn't you did not trust us

with what we have told you so now we

have trusted them with this it is now

left for them to deliver on what they

have assured us and they have assured

our constituents so that is the

difference between either it is not

Central you know and you know again I've

always said that look the

personalization of regional and zonal

politics has been what has taken us

aback but let's look at credibility

let's look at capacity let's look at who

and how we'll be able to deliver the

dividends of democracy but in as much as

Federal character is key to guide us

and who becomes what but when we don't

look at Federal character we now look at

a geopolitical Zone which yes is a

component of the federal character then

we'll be able to fail in that all right

yeah so but when the cycle goes around

look at credibility look at Federal

character they will be able to you your

the mouthpiece of uh your group heading

into at this election and there are a

lot of issues that came up what would

you say uh was a trading or the

trade-off for in all of the

conversations that you had that made uh

you and your colleagues are in your

position

aligned forces with the ruling APC

basically one of the things that we

collectively looked at let me tell you

the truth is that

maybe it will be the first time that I

will tell sadasoli here he was among the

top contenders that we have been able to

to look at and uh out of about is it

seven or eight uh three about three to

four of them keep top from our own

rating because we looked at ideology

ideology of the individual that have to

do it's not about political parties it's

not about endorsement or tomorrow you

would call it robustam you look about

the capacity to be able to uh to carry

the house and institutional memory

and if you look at the institutional

memory of all of them out of the top

three top four you'll be you agree with

us that look any of them could have been

the presiding officers but zeroing on a

bus have to do with the weight that he

already has as

a preferred candidate of the ruling

party because we want to work I want to

look at this what does he have above the

others now we want to look at the ruling

party tomorrow and say look you were the

ones that said Abbas can do this job and

if he fails if we speak tomorrow if we

oppose tomorrow we will not be held

responsible because we are doing the

duties

well today he's not 24 hours into uh

into office yet but let me tell you why

not why not because that is when we'll

be able to talk and speak to him head up

high because look you gave us your word

your the ruling party gave us your word

and because we are looking at sensible

opposition not senseless not because we

are uh we are the opposing party so

anything that comes from the ruling

party it is just we just opposed even in

the face issue criticism that you guys

were dogmatic you

if we were to just follow suit we

couldn't have screamed them like I said

he is here he was cleaned as well by the

opposition let me quickly take you up on

this and I'd like you to listen to what

uh the speaker said uh when he was at

the Villa today and it's a major

criticism of the National Assembly and

he mentioned it and he's saying that

that is not what the National Assembly

with him in charge of the green chamber

will be take a listen to honorable

you talk about robust term look at the

acceptance rate those who have elected

us across party lines

almost all the the whole entire PDP

sdp ADC and all other minority parties

voted us

so if where they felt that we are going

to be robust terms do you think they

will uh they will elect us no they

believe that we will safeguard the

sanctity of the National Assembly the

legislator who will always separate our

independence and we will be we will will

release and be able to

harmonize with the executive wear

necessary but where there is a conflict

of interest where we feel that the

executive is or wants to do something

that is not against that is not in the

interest of the public they know they

will start to stand up against that

all right yeah I mean this is a major

criticism people believe that no I mean

like a soul uh Senator Arlene Dume there

is a huge public distrust in public

institution just like the National

Assembly and the belief is that it's

being a robber stamp National Assembly

especially in the ninth assembly how do

you convince the people of Nigeria that

you and your colleagues who've been

robber stamped today exactly well you

see I don't even understand the meaning

of robustan but be as it may that is the

public perception and public perception

is something different in the rear end

when you compare it with the realities

you see

what uh Mr Speaker is saying or said

basically saying we will do the right

thing

and then we will allow the general

public to judge us fairly and we appeal

to the Nigerian public to judge the

National Assembly fairly the issue of

robust term does it mean doing the right

thing or yielding to Experia argument

remember these are independent uh arms

of government but they have their

nuances they have their disagreement but

that does not mean we should not come to

a point whereby we would deliver to the

Nigerian public honorable

and you are I mean you when you were

watching my conversation we sent it to

Alinda man I asked him about the issue

of ways that means and he said look he

didn't understand how that went through

the Senate and these are issues Nigerian

people will be asking where were you and

your colleagues when this kind of thing

went through the National Assembly the

reason why they criticized you as being

Robert's let me let me let me uh let me

be honest with you with due respect to

uh Senator alien Dume do we have a role

in granting the ways and means by law

yes why was it brought before why was it

before National Assembly if we don't

have a role we Grant approval

some they said

approval these approval this we

legitimize the process and that is the

position of the nationalism shouldn't

you have rejected it we shouldn't have

rejected it because we're already in it

the advances were already granted you

saw something excuse me the granted the

the grant well the advances were already

granted by the CBN

so we need to legitimize it otherwise

queried well we one of your roles in one

leg of your role as a National Assembly

is to play an oversized so when you see

any wrong drain shouldn't you have

invested it was queried in the report

where it is being brought when the deed

has been done

but then the deed has been done and you

need to legitimize it otherwise it will

compromise

federal government with its own right to

approach the CBN if it requires some

advances

that's his way at the 10th end of it we

amended the section of the CBN act where

we push in the advances to 15 instead of

five percent

we were being futuristic in the process

understand the position of National

Assembly with regards to waste I miss we

need to legitimize it yes there were

mistakes by the previous government you

cannot avoid that uh so many officials

couldn't have advised the president to

do the right thing but later on they

realized that they have to do the right

thing and they brought the issue to

National Assembly the National Assembly

not to approve it to legitimize it I

mean I mean is that realization there

now of the need that the Nigerian people

of the ninth assembly are slightly

different from the Nigerian people of

the 10th National Assembly there seems

to be a more conscious life and we also

in the media we know that I mean there

are possibility of you making mistakes

in what you're doing so we'll put our I

mean we'll be more uh critical about

what you do I I understand shown human

beings are valuable

and remember

one of the even challenges that we may

face even the current National Assembly

is the turnover we have 200 and

something

260 250 new members so when we encounter

this kind of challenges some of these

problems are unavoidable because when

you have to train the members one they

have to grasp with the issues one we

have they have to grasp with the

provisions of the Constitution

provisions of the numerous hundreds and

thousands of laws that we have in the

country if you have a turnover of

National Assembly like this you got to

be careful

I mean do you feel that pressure from

the Nigerian people the need for the

delivery of good governance and if the

executive is not standing up for the

Nigerian people can the intense National

Assembly do it you said I mean you you

and your colleagues always call yourself

be represented the voice of the people

absolutely the pressure is there the

pressure I know how people will say

congratulations don't fail us and when

people say don't fail us automatically

they mean that look we are underpinning

we are feeling what the country is the

burden on us so you are there for us to

be able to address these issues and like

you said the institutional memory has

made the National Assembly to not to be

able to even check most of those things

like I tell even even the the second

timers the issue of ways and means is

even new to someone

but if these issues have been there give

for like 10 15 years when it comes

immediately without address now that the

Benchmark has been shifted to 15 this is

the time that we need to start

addressing the issues that look it

shouldn't overshoot 15 again because

this will take take another 8 to 12

years before it gets to 15 and in the

next 12 to 15 years you have new members

they won't know what is there and tell

you the executive will just give you

what to say ah oh God this thing is okay

so these are issues that institutional

memory is one of the great job the great

tax that the 10th National Assembly will

be able to build capacity of members and

again let me say I I was in preview to

the interview of of the right honorable

speaker on saying that the the

opposition will hold them accountable

and which was what just what I said and

those were the issues that were the

major points that during his screening

that we told him that in as much as we

have resolved to support to support you

it doesn't mean that that robust term or

that govern will just go through on

anything no the reserve is just like a

rope in your neck that if you make that

mistake definitely we are coming for it

yeah let's cross the conversation I'll

have 30 seconds happy pizza and it's the

feeling out there that there was some

things that happened against the usual

traditional convention that the

procedure is supposed to be held one

after the other he had simultaneously

two hours earlier than scheduled these

are some of the issues I've been raised

to to say oh these are means that we the

politicking that came into play just to

ensure that the APC had his way 30

seconds I don't think so but I I can

guess having been in the National

Assembly since 1992 I can categorically

say yes something wrong took place

uh but uh

it's not against the law it's not

against the procedure but uh but in the

conventional it's unconventional we have

broken some of the precedents that we

used to have but it was managed later on

and then I don't think it was based to

shortchange anybody or there was any

suspicion order was anything

because the process had to be followed

he has been here since 1992. so he will

really know he went something but for me

which is one of the my second my second

uh witnessing yes in as much as is

unconventional is for us to now check

that if we have broken the rules if we

really will go again if we if we go

according to the rules so in as much as

it's unconventional to me I'm always in

for a for for change at any party level

but the most important thing let's go

according to the rules all right

I need to warn you though that there are

ropes around your necks absolutely just

like you said and it is not only the

people who have voted you it's also the

media who are pulling the Rope to ensure

that you guys I mean you and your

colleagues let me let me let me call on

the attention of the media as long as

the media will do the right thing we

would we will be able to complement you

doing a job exactly don't look at

yourself as if you are the most

righteous person let me a segment of the

society you have a big chunk of

responsibility to educate the Nigerian

people

in 2015 the way they started the hair a

lot of things could have been put to

hold

we'll do better

I just saw we have our eyes on you yes

thank you so much gentlemen

thank you so much

that's our show for today everyone I'll

see you tomorrow again at 7 pm I'm sure

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