Published June 5, 2023, 12:20 a.m. by Arrik Motley
The UK is divided both geographically and trend wise when it comes to sneakers (trainers). In the north football culture reigns supreme, while London is inspired by hip-hop and grime music. This episode features commentary by Dizzee Rascal, Gary Aspden, Mubi Ali, DJ Target, Full Size Run's Matt Welty, and more.
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[Music]
terrace culture
it's about wearing
something that is expensive something
that
you can't really put a title on
it's an unwritten rule
it was around about 2000 to 2003 and we
were looking for vintage adidas shoes
and somebody in copenhagen seemed to
have a nice stash i get on the plane i
get to copenhagen maybe 11 o'clock at
night
and maybe one o'clock i find the shop
and on the shelf there is a pair of
adidas cortica these shoes are just
ridiculously rare i had not seen a power
for 20 odd years today i value them at
one of the highest prices of any terrace
culture shoes
the lights on in the back room and i can
see there's a guy in the office at the
back so i'm banging on the window he
looks at me and sees me goes what do you
want i said i've got 3 000 pounds in my
pocket says come back tomorrow with an
estate car and with all your money and
we'll all drive to where i get them from
so the next day we drive four hours
north over bridges and bridges and
bridges
he takes me to this store he said right
you can't come upstairs we'll bring down
what you can buy
and then i bought 30 pairs
brought them back to manchester put them
in the shop and within like two days i
sold every single pair
it's only cool when nobody knows what it
is and everybody knows what it is
it ain't cool anymore
there's still the mindset in the north
that if london does it we'll do the
opposite that whole low profile gum
souls three-strike traditional adidas
identity it's almost like it's in the
water here
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the whole difference between london and
the north of england is london has so
much more diversity you walk around the
streets you walk around the hood you
walk around the ghettos of london and
you will see everyone's wearing air
maxes if you're living and breathing in
london there's no getting away from it
the uk has really established itself as
one of the most culturally significant
countries in sneaker culture and when an
entire culture is defined by their love
of a shoe it also speaks to how
important shoes are in general
what is it about shoes
it's all about being unique and looking
unique
in the trainer scene in the uk trainers
were seen as valuable as i would say
jewelry
london is exposed to different cultures
coming over and bringing over different
vibes
and london purposely became the hub of
experimentation from brands they were
like okay let's drop this in london
let's see if there's a taste for it and
then we'll take it elsewhere generally
we didn't work anywhere else but in
london
when we first opened up sns sneakers and
stuff it looked very very different to
how you see it now we've had
a couple of refurbishments just to
uplift the space and make it look a lot
more modern i think the hottest thing on
the rack for me right now is probably
the
react element 87. in paris fashion week
it was previewed on the catwalk and it
literally broke the internet everyone
was sharing it everyone was talking
about it and like it was a shoe that i
wanted to pop my foot straight away i
mean modern day comfort and it's just
completely new and completely different
back in the early 70s i would say london
was like anywhere else in england but
gradually as you move on throughout the
80s and the 90s it started creating its
own identity they started diversifying
their tastes being first on a trend
first on the latest trainers that were
coming out but if you look at the
uk as a as a whole there is definitely a
north and south divide and the birth of
sneaker culture in the uk if you really
want to go back it was probably from the
terraces of football
there's going to consistently be a
difference when you look at northern
england particularly because the primary
thing that matters is football
[Applause]
when i was growing up all we really did
was hang around on street corners and
play football
or soccer as you americans like to call
it
and a lot of the fashion and style that
i grew up with was all experiential it
was stuff that you saw at the local
disco it was stuff that you saw at the
local football match
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you would see 15 year old kids wearing a
really expensive sweater with a pair of
jeans that were kind of semi-flared at
the bottom with a pair of flat gum sole
suede added ass trainers
it's street fashion in the truest sense
of the word it wasn't celebrity-led it
wasn't music-led it was genuinely coming
from
the very bottom end of society
gary aston one of the biggest collectors
of adidas one of the most knowledgeable
people about adidas as a brand
he's a rarity
he's kind of like the godfather of
adidas in the uk
he finally got his own line adidas
spaziow which was based off of the
history and the archives and his
personal collection
and if the brand's going to give the
reins to anyone to tell a story for this
segment of the population he's the guy
to do it
the idea of special was i wanted to
create a range that had a very
traditional adidas identity
and when they gave me the green light to
do it i went away and i thought what
does that even mean
and i thought about where i grew up how
i grew up and i found this kind of odd
relationship between a very conservative
german sportswear brand being adopted by
these very abrasive and edgy british
youth cultures
and when you're talking about football
style in the 1970s
it was all about the black leather with
the three white stripes
you could say that you love adidas and
that's great
but if you only love easy it's time to
learn a little bit more about the range
i meet people all the time and they go
yeah man i was there back in the day i
was rocking my superstars and i'm like
not if you were growing up in the uk you
weren't
in the uk our superstar was the gazelle
in the 80s when this style really came
into its own and became this huge
movement within the uk
people that went to football stood on
terraces to watch the game and that's
where the term terrorist culture
originates from
it was kids who were dressing with
extreme attention to detail the way they
put their claws together the brands they
wore but it turned on its head because
people wanted to look like tennis
superstars
going to the football match so terry's
called to really change quickly from one
thing to the next
i first met nigel lawson about 20 years
ago at ipolloi i got to know him when
they were first starting out
oipoloy is a derogatory term used by the
upper classes about the lower classes it
means the masses
the humdrum the workers but the working
classes really are the ones who invented
terrace culture
it was almost like it was working class
style it was something subversive it was
taking
things that were not meant for kids like
us
and
reappropriating that
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well here it is the
best-selling adidas shoe in history
it just changed the game because when i
was a kid people were wearing samba then
all of a sudden everybody started
wearing this white shoe without any
stripes with perforation with the green
heel tap this pure white tennis shoe
when you walk the streets of england you
will probably see more stan smiths than
any other individual's shoe on feet this
was such an iconic shoe to me as a kid i
loved wearing it i love the shape of it
to me as a kid in stockport in 1978 i
didn't know who the hell stan smith was
but i certainly knew what this shoe was
i mean these clothes were made for
millionaires to play tennis in malibu
they weren't meant for kids off the
estate from the north west of england
the only way they could get it was by
stealing it the older guys would travel
to switzerland and austria and germany
where there was very little security in
the shops and they would come back with
all dolls full of expensive designer
clothing
it's these symbols of aspiration worn in
the context of quite a hard existence
it's clean living on the difficult
conditions that's the definition of mod
culture
[Music]
it felt subversive to be wearing
designer brands when you were signing on
the door
you come through the 80s which have been
a time of recession and gloom you're
talking about conservative government
under mrs thatcher you're talking about
factories closing down and then all of a
sudden acid house came along
and bang
in the late 80s casuals and football
hooligans had become ravers and we're
going out to all night parties and all
that energy was kind of put into this
very exciting time
i was a b-boy i was a breakdancer from
83 until about 86. you're talking about
a trainer you wanted to go out and
dancing all night
zx series were perfect
they had these incredible pastel
colourways
and the second zx series used a
technology called torsion and that was
the go-to shoe for acid house
it was one of those happy accidents
adidas could never have been thinking
about what was going to be happening on
the m25 with warehouse parties
if you're part of the terrace culture
it's a multi-generational deal people
love the shoes
they know when something is one
millimeter off
it's not just about the way somebody
dresses it's about the mindset that
accompanies that
there was little money and there was a
lot of boredom so claws
music and football
became everything
the birth of sneaker culture in the uk
it was all about identity it was all
about being a part of a movement
but it was a different kind of culture
london
is a lot more experimental and it
started separating itself from the
northern parts of the uk you see this
broader consumer here downstairs right
now people are lining up for a pata
jordan 7
and there's just diversity in the people
i grew up in some would say the hood in
an area called brixton back in the late
80s early 90s
lots of immigrants lived there and we
were a part of that cauldron of
personalities
we lived in a two-bedroom apartment and
there was like four kids and every time
i came home with a new pair of shoes
my mom was kicking off but the thing is
i started working when i was quite young
i did my part for the family but then i
saved up to go get my sneakers
growing up i was definitely a lot more
obsessive of what i wanted to have on my
feet versus a lot of my friends
everyone's getting the same stuff from
the jd sports from the foot lockers from
these chain stores
i want something different and that's
where my obsession
really exploded
first shoe i probably fell in love with
was jordan fours
i had a friend in primary school
who got to visit america every single
year he came back after the summer time
wearing jordan force and my mind was
blown
in 1989 jordan had become the biggest
athlete on the planet and jordan 4 has
consistently come up in london as one of
the first shoes that really kind of
crossed over
this is the colorway that really
started this obsession and yeah it's an
obsession
this one with no swoosh and the mesh and
the colors
just nothing like it man the minute you
had that shoe on your foot everyone was
looking
steve brydon he's one of the original
crooked tongues members he knows a lot
about shoes
one of the guys that i really looked up
to when i was younger because he was
wearing some crazy stuff
even when i was at college i used to buy
and sell shoes before there was a
reselling thing i've always been
fascinating what's new and what's coming
and that's always been a passion kind of
nerdy a little bit i would say it was
the time when the internet was booming
as well so i spend a lot of my time on
these new sneaker websites night talk
and sneaker.com we used to see sneakers
on the website you right click and save
just have like discs full of pictures of
sneakers that you'll never ever see nice
to write little articles about them just
keep them you know keep them saved on
floppy disk or wherever
and my friend chris who i knew around
the way knew i was into trainers a whole
crew was basically into shoes
he was like we're going to start this
website got sneakers called crooked
tongues i'm trying to be involved i was
like you guys are nuts
you're going to spend time and money to
the website about
no sneakers i was like well we should
try it you know it started off very
small but then we noticed hits were just
insane and it became one of the you know
the biggest things on the internet
the same way that americans view
something like nike talk for the
european crowd crooked tongues really
was that like meeting place where people
first went on the internet and talk
about all these limited edition stuff
and trade shoes and trade ideas and
learn more about sneakers
i started searching the internet i
started joining forums so i was a part
of the crooked tongues forum i was like
wearing wovens i was wearing dunkis bees
and people were like where are you
getting these how are you getting these
what are you doing to get these all
these questions started coming up and i
was just like what do you want me to say
the internet that's your best friend at
the time when we first started crooked
titans i would say sneaker collecting
was more about vintage finding the shoes
that you wanted when you were younger or
shoes you didn't have access to for us
it was about trying to find holy grails
they call down
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the nike dunk glow espy london the
london dunk arguably one of the grills
of london
it's one of the rare shoes in the world
i think it was a hundred pairs
it's probably the first london shoe that
we got of our own and the colour is very
london
gray miserable
it's got the river thames on the hill
legend has it that foot patrol didn't
even tell anybody that they were
releasing it you had to know someone at
foot patrol and quietly ask about it to
get access to the shoe
i got phone calls people were saying go
down to foot patrol today asap they've
just dropped the london dunk and i just
wanted to get as many as i could
for me it was all about having a kind of
unique perspective on what you wore on
your foot and wanting to stand out
everything was like a new sneaker
revolution a lot of storytelling that's
what it was back then
i think that's where sneaker culture was
really really born
brand started doing a lot more relevant
drops purpose built for the streets
rather than for performance
and then it mutated after that then it
started going to the ghettos
and the best way of expressing yourself
is through your footwear through your
clothing
and in london that's where the whole air
max culture came from
where there's poverty
people want to have the riches
people wanted to wear the latest and
greatest and you could only do that in
london
and rime is a soundtrack to the hood
grime music was
the result of
us as youths growing up listening to us
hip-hop
listening to music from our caribbean
cultures our african cultures throw in
some jungle music and uk garage and then
you've got this kind of mashup of
london's
version of hip-hop
it was a voice for the kids in in the
cities
it had a different sound it had a uk
sound it had a uk feel the mcs were
talking about uk
stuff uk slang
and it was the first time that uk rap
culture has really had its own identity
some of the most legendary grime artists
have all been through here at some stage
we'd have meetings here we decided
people were writing lyrics here it all
happened here right here
today we're seeing grime music getting
more and more popular globally you talk
about the scepters and the wilys and all
these guys are lyrically soul on point
but dizzy was the one that really kind
of bought it into the limelight for the
world
i'm the pioneer
yeah
facts
the deeper you dig the more you'll find
out
i'm from bow in east london i came up on
pirate radio emceeing over hard beats
and spitting at raves
i grew up in this building i had my dj
set up there my friends would come up
there i would dj there with mc then
eventually i would become an mc as well
i lived in this building
when i was like say when i made my first
album
if you see the front of my first album
i'm wearing air max that was like the
hood uniform
trainers were one of them things that i
was always into as a kid people always
like what training you got what training
you getting that was always always a
thing i don't know
a time when it wasn't
graham continues to influence a lot of
uk culture especially trainer culture
grime and trainer culture has always
walked hand in hand i've been collecting
since i was in school
we actually had to build a room in our
house for myself and my wife's trainer
collection
london's always had
a few trainers that have been like
signature like the air max
95s the air force ones when they came
that's the kind of trainers that people
wore in the areas where we come from
before graham was even thought of it
didn't come from the music it was the
other way around
if you keep talking to people today
everyone would tell you yeah air max
rules the scene
the love for air max here has never
waned it has been consistent since it
originally came out it's definitely an
inner city shoe we made this shoe famous
it wasn't the runners i didn't see
anyone in the marathon wearing them
but dizzy was really the first uk artist
to have a formal collaboration with nike
when i eventually got asked by nike if i
wanted to do a collaboration with me and
ben drewy it was a no brainer and then
we did the tongue and cheek which came
out with my album and that one was real
suave you know because the colors and
all that the pink tongue was a touch
that was a bit of genius they're little
things
subtle things you know i mean
when they came out i can't remember how
much they cost we only did like 200 or
something of them i just looked on ebay
now i was one gun for eight grand which
is mad because i didn't really keep any
i was just giving them away and i felt
like an idiot
styles have changed
over the years especially in london i
think comfort is becoming more key
but the north
stick to their guns a bit more
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davis is part of the fibre of culture
music culture and popular culture came
to adidas adidas didn't go to it
so there's this very natural association
with culture that no amount of marketing
spend can buy for you
so when we created the first special
collection we did the global launch in
manchester and it created quite a storm
people who would not ordinarily queue up
overnight
were queuing up overnight
gary brought a recognition of beautiful
simple classic shapes back to adidas it
hadn't been worn by these younger
generations
fact 51y3 the hacienda the hacienda was
a nightclub in manchester that was
opened in 1982 and it closed
in the mid-90s it was so much more than
a nightclub it was a hub for culture it
was a hub of acid house in the northwest
of england
so the shoe box here which looks kind of
like a misshapen coffin
is actually in the shape of the hacienda
dance floor
this is so incredibly thorough nobody
would have expected y3 at that time to
do a collaboration with the hacienda
it was taking something that was being
produced for sports and athletics and
putting that into a completely different
arena
these different pockets of culture are
taking this brand and grafting things
onto it and making it their own
brands are not what people were while
they're participating in culture
brands are actually part of culture
[Music]
you could ask me any question and i
could give you a story on how i got
those shoes
when i was cueing for shoes i remember
the people that were in front and behind
me
i remember the conversations i was
having with those people about the shoes
about what they were up to about what
was going on at that time
in the u.s cool will radically shift
from one year to another and it'll shift
by generation
but things that are cool in the uk
are forever cool
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[Music]
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