Is Sport Art?

I feel like I'm kind of contradicting

myself okay in a way because we were

just talking about student athletes in

college and how they deserve to be paid

that's not art that's a weird semantic

conversation I feel like sport is art I

feel like sports are explained okay so I

like under the umbrella of creation

right like like of what is art

I feel like sports should fall under

that and I think for does entertainment

is entertainment not art not if it's

sports to me I think that if me watching

Jordan Burroughs to a double-leg right

is just as poetic as anything that

[ __ ] Emily Dickinson cried it is

you're seeing someone

that is trying to to master a craft

you're seeing someone that is and if it

is entertainment then to me

entertainment is art you know that

that's why why do you think that sport

is not art because I don't think it's

it's not creativity from the same place

you're not you're not creating things

for storytelling

or for imagery or for something like

that you are creative in the sense of

I'm a great running back ungraded I'm

creative in the way my body moves in in

and not even like dancing dancing you're

creative in the way your body moves but

it's for performance and for expression

when you're a running back the way your

body moves you're not you're not

creating these movements is a form of

expression you're creating these

movements the way of not letting that do

tackle you I would I would argue that

like there's people like Ben Simmons who

are expressing themselves just as much

through through sport as a painter is

through a canvas really absolutely what

about salute what about Ben Simmons not

not about him what he's physically doing

but about who he is makes you think that

I think cuz I think you could maybe

argue that for someone like Joe Ellen

because he's more expressive and he's

more he's more of a performer on the

court okay so I now I don't think that

your personality because okay the

difference between Ben Simmons and

Joelle right that you're

bringing up here is like their their

expressiveness personality-wise right

but you don't have to have an expressive

personality be an expressive artist no

you don't you don't that's true right

like so i kid i could be a deaf-mute

painter and still have a very expressive

like i can express my perspective and

express my yeah III sorry I I kind of

lost my train of thought there but yeah

I just feel like the the mastering of a

craft and I feel like it's just as

expressive I feel like it depends on

like what your semantics are as far as

when it comes to art because obviously

you're not you're not telling a story

you're not telling a narrative but

you're not really doing that with I

don't think you're really expressing an

idea when you're playing a sport either

outside of I'm trying to execute to the

force of my capability to win the game

do you feel like the competition is the

I think competition is the opposite of

creativity I think competition hurts

being creative I see it I think that's

it that's an interesting thing because I

think that it can be sort of it's a it's

a pro/con scenario I think that

competition can aid it they fuel you as

an individual to want to make better art

than the person you're competing with

but I mean like Brian DePalma talks

about his his competition and his

compete is competing with Martin

Scorsese all the time and he talks about

that well I drives him to make better

movies yeah and I think I'm thinking I

think that can be more I think that that

competition can be detrimental to I

think competition can be individually

motivating but I don't think that like I

think the the nature of the box-office

mmm creates a competitive nature to

films to making movies right that

actually hurts moviemaking as a whole

because I think then you can't get

movies made of specific genre

or specific budget frames all these

kinds of things can't exist because it's

not viable financially because we're

competing to make the most money every

weekend that is what I'm talking when I

say that competition hurts art is when

you attach monetary value to things and

I think in sports I mean we were just

talking about how it's wrong and that

college athletes aren't getting paid

because all the money the sports make

yeah I think in sports

pretty much all sports are driven by

money at its core it's an enter to it

that's why entertainment is different

but so are movies

yes but I'm saying they shouldn't be I

don't know how sports exists without

that I don't know how anyone chooses to

play football without making millions of

dollars I don't care how much you love

football you're putting your life at

risk

but football absolutely can exist

without financial game they can mean you

we could go play catch yeah like that's

but we can get our friends but we can

get our friends together and we are

creating our own game we are a different

animal obviously obviously we're not NFL

players dog yeah but I think that then

you're just having fun you're I don't

think you're creating I think we're just

thinking of the of creativity in a

different way I don't think you're

creating something I think you're just

having a good time you're exerting

yourself physically you're exercising

and you're having fun with your friends

that seems different than creating

something to me okay is that what the

crux of this is you wanted to dive into

create or not know it kind of went to a

different like like what is is sport art

the week yeah we started talking about

that okay so I always specifically

talking about exposure and I don't think

there's a right or wrong answer I think

that that's more that's like your

opinion man think sport is art you think

sport is art there's nothing wrong with

that yeah I just think we kind of

disagree on it a little bit

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