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Mr Martin Kieran is with us this morning
Martin what is your take on this
um the getting in golo kante they've
already got carrying Benzema they're
already before that had Cristiano
Ronaldo I'm talking about Saudi Arabia
and uh the Saudi Saudi Arabian clubs
doing big business offering massive
money mouth-watering size money to
players maybe that you might suggest
coming towards the Twilight of their
careers and they cannot say no because
the money on offer is absolutely
ridiculous but now at 26 wolves Reuben
Neves is about to Buck that Trend that
someone who is in his prime appears to
be saying yes to Saudi Arabia what does
this tell us I mean at the end of the
season never as a wolf said well let's
see what's going to happen I all say the
same thing I'd love to be here but I
never hide that I want to play Champions
League football well he's not going to
get that there is it no and one he may
welcome back to us so Jim at some point
but these it's a life-changing contract
for him uh this doesn't appear to be
obviously any kind of in Saudi Arabia
any kind of financial fair play rules at
all so they can now come and pick our
best players or players that are maybe
just below the top shelf I still hope
that the the really the good players
stay here and there's enough competition
and what you know why would you go there
apart from the money that you're getting
um you want wonders as if little bit of
a root isn't it for boli to take players
out I think he's one of his companies
Jim is associated with the Saudi Arabia
well we're going to get to that very
shortly is that a good way of getting
rid of some of the you know three
Chelsea players all of a sudden kante of
course is on a free though
um and he'll be a big loss to the
Premier League who could have done a
very good job for instance for Arsenal
uh but instead he's going to take a
pocket full of money uh you could say
Jim it's a very short career kante's had
lots of injuries while he's been at
Chelsea is there an underlying problem
is he just taking the money it's a real
shame because he's not gonna it's about
competition
Nevis is 26 and one breath he says I
want to play Champions League football
then he sees his opponents he can't see
it's 100 the money he can't really deny
that okay it's a new opportunity new
league but it's so much in its infancy
that it can't be a proper competition
yet uh although the money they're paying
is is astronomical I mean wolves
probably can't say no yeah sure 47
million will of that but never scan
surely the characterization of this is
it concerning to see a 26 year old play
and what does it say to the players
behind that this opportunity we've seen
this before we started with Oscar at
Chelsea going to China at a certain
stage in his career and certain types of
players may take that route and quite
frankly the Saudis and the Middle
Eastern guys are a long way behind the
cycle of developing footballers as other
leagues and there is an element that
they need a bit of help and that will
only help they can get is by having the
enormous economic resources they've got
to be able to attract players to try and
build a league which has underlying
aspiration of building young players
through and academies and all that sort
of stuff
um I do believe that
UEFA have no jurisdiction is there it's
none of their business FIFA can have
some jurisdiction about the reality of
having an overall perspective of how
football leagues should conduct
themselves economically
having an argument with the Chinese and
see how you get on with that but in this
instance I'm slightly more concerned
because we know with all due respect to
whoever whatever friends we've got in
Qatar and people that we've developed
relationships with we know that a
significant proportion of the reason why
Middle Eastern money is buying sports
clubs is because it involves
um uh influence and creating a culture
and using sport for that and Once Upon a
Time the Chinese could have been there
in that account but they're not
interested in making any opinions of
anybody they'll run their own game
whereas the Middle Eastern guys are
which means they're gonna have longer
legs longer appetite for this because
the Chinese soon shut down their
mentality we want homegrown we want to
develop we want to start putting wage
capping in place and all of a sudden the
Chinese opportunity which Diego Costa
and people like that were going to take
advantage of and we're leveraging the
English football clubs I'll go to China
I'll go to China unless I get precisely
what I want that had short legs yeah
because the Chinese government shut that
down correct they implemented the Caps
because because their agenda for sports
was very different to that of the Saudis
that's why this has a little bit more
concern about it yeah but I don't think
it's going to be reflective of the bulk
of players taking that pathway I know
that what's going on is moment in time
is bordering upon obscene because the
money that's being paid and people will
say it's a global market it's a fair
market boys can take whatever they want
and there's an element of that but it
was also another of disruption and
underlying objectives that are slightly
disconcerting I am more than happy to
help emerging countries have a fair
shake at building football leagues and
some of that will be on the basis of
attracting Talent with the only thing
they can possibly attract them with
which is money right but there has to be
a scenario where that stops at some
point and it cannot be used as a
disrupter to disrupt the economic base
of football around the world because
everyone will be turning around all the
ghastly agents will be saying I'll take
them to Saudi yeah I'll take them to
Saudi I'll take them to Saudi precisely
and that's where not UEFA that's where
FIFA and then of course what people turn
around and say well hang on what's fever
got to do with it they're the
International Federation for football
not necessarily the domestic game and
that's why UEFA might pop their hat into
the mix to say will arbitrary well of
course you'll arbitrate to increase your
power base but the point is is right now
I don't see I see never as I go
disappointing son because you're hardly
going to the poor house exactly exactly
I think I think Simon's nailed it it's
disappointing it is but it chooses the
money but will it only be certainly will
it only be certain types of players been
at wolves now I mean if you're if you're
a man City player you come into your new
career you might take it but if you're
somebody in your Peak
I'm looking at kante and I honestly I
feel maybe there's an issue underlying
issues
yeah maybe but I mean he's not doing
anything he wouldn't want to see players
too many players good players go there
in their prime
minister I mean I think alarm Bell
should go when we start seeing 21 year
old kids rocking over there yeah and
seeing you know seeing that sort of
things when we see people getting
paydays at the back of end well that's
the end that's the saudi's got more
money than we've ever seen right and the
balance of deficit payments in these
countries with the Positive they've got
trillions we can't even comprehend how
much money they've got and it does
slightly concern me that sport will be
leveraged for their own ends again I go
back to the point they have a right to
build their leagues and the only way
they can do it is by attracting Talent
like the Americans in the 70s when they
were trying to build the American
Leagues and they've got Pele over and
they got friends back in birth play for
the cosmos and they've got Peter beards
they pay for the Vancouver white cats to
try and build leagues up yeah but there
was always some commercial sense behind
that this is not about commercial sense
this is about building something on the
back of football and paying people
astronomical amounts of money and
everyone else can go to hell
number one how long will this go on for
number two are the saudi's ever gonna
that we're never gonna see one of their
clubs in the Champions League are we so
I mean
because ultimately you might see them in
the world football club championships
they will suit FIFA because FIFA will
see another opportunity to revenue
generate because ultimately they're
going to build the world club
championships right it'd be nice to have
that region including it as well more
money cashing for FIFA yeah but the
bottom line is is that is I don't look
at it and say the same way as we
categorize it with China this will go on
and on and on and on as long as the
Saudis want it to because they're not
running out of money or influence desire
anytime soon I mean not seven of the
efforts got to offer is that the Saudis
should develop their own players well
well they'll do that as well as well but
for Neves when you look at it man it's a
win-win Roberto Martinez is still going
to pick him for Portugal he's still
going to be in that Portuguese Squad no
matter what
so he will get International Football he
won't get Champions League football but
it'll get more money than God as Simon
would say well that's right but money
has become a God in all of this isn't it
because that's what the driver is that's
the thing that's maybe not healthy
um
look I left Arsenal over over money so
you may be talking to the wrong person
it was only 50 Quid
but it was more it was more about the
prince ultimately
um no I think I think there's a thing
called you know I mean the I'm looking
at happiness I'm looking at competition
I'm looking at where I really want to be
do does he really does Nevis really want
to be there but as you say Martin
regularly which by the way is tribe it's
a short career uh so we can go over
there for a couple years on average it's
a very short career most people's
careers are short nobody gets a job for
life anymore do they've got a fantastic
for all the top Pros there's lots of
Stories Behind the Scenes mostly they
don't make it and most of them that
we're talking about most people don't
have long careers and have careers in
life in jobs forever you want to tackle
away from your Caribbean and that's why
you get insurance and get paid out for
career in the career ending um
situations
anywhere near no it doesn't but it's
still probably in the millions most for
most players but the point is this is
that if we look at the situation with
neighbors and the opportunities that are
available to him that you know you can
understand to some extent why he would
want to do it you can understand the
ramifications well yeah but and it's
it's interesting because we may take the
case and we make it for players that
every player that walks on a football
pitch wants to win something every
player that goes into a football
dressing room wants to play a Champions
League I did a conversation with Matt
Letizia the other day who spoke
specifically and explicitly about not
being worried about that he wanted to
entertain and that's why he stayed at
Southampton didn't join Tottenham
Hotspur and didn't join Chelsea when he
offered him contracts can you see what's
going on here Simon last month never
says I want Champions League football
sodas and the blur they're going to
offer me what when's the next flight but
that tells you more about him it tells
you about the trends now what we're
suggesting is this might be a trend that
people follow tragically there is a
generation of football that comes
through looking at the rewards rather
than being very good at their jobs we've
all seen them in I saw them in my
academies 10 years ago where they were
looking at what being Right comes in the
car park driving the Ferrari Ian don't
bring a Ferrari down to the car park
when you're working with the kids
because I don't want to see that side of
things comes down with a Ferrari and
they see that side of things and they
get caught up with that sort of scenario
yeah and you don't want it for them that
sort of player I always believe that the
top players want to be top players and
they focus on being top players and they
know that the rewards are going to come
as a result of being top place I think
when they get engaged and they start to
sit and talking telephone numbers I
think it's easy to be judgmental and
people start looking at the the longer
of the citizen is finished it's a
dangerous period because you start to
look maybe at the wrong things I think
maybe when it really the competition
starts and it starts to really sink in
that the money is of course he can't say
it wasn't worth it but this boy was
going to be a wealthy boy wherever he
went and maybe the money has become too
much of a drive anyway
apparently is the latest team in
discussion here 47 million quid to
wolves and never gets a very handsome
amount of money for playing for Al hilal
who else is going to follow
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