"Tyson makes it DIFFICULT to do business!" Simon Jordan & Frank Warren CLASH over Tyson Fury!

and we've got to talk about Tyson Fury

and what is going on you know it's

coming Frank I can see your face already

we've sort of touched on it a little bit

um the whole situation with Tyson Fury

in a way has infuriated a lot of fact in

the sense of what's happening with him

when are we next seeing him in the ring

is he gonna fight this person is he

going to fight that person

where are we at with everything with him

well he's gonna we'll be announcing

something soon he is fighting he's gonna

fight

um

we as I say would be announcing that in

the next week or so it's more or less a

done deal

um don't ask me you because I'm not

going to go down that road or where or

when but um he will fight in the

meantime

you know people The Narrative was

controlled at the time by

using a lot of people balled into what

was well when I repeat what I said

earlier you know that fight uh we were

desperate to get it on but it was all

going to be back going on with in Saudi

they asked us to pull Tyson at these

fight last December so they could put it

on February had we done that Tyson would

have had a fight

because then they were talking about

doing on April 29th that got postponed

and then they're talking about doing it

at the end of the at the end of the year

and then last week they were talking

about maybe moving that date now to the

uh to the January

um 24.

um

the reason osik wants to fight dad

because as you heard what Joe you know

Joe said they get paid far far more

money than we would get from a gate here

you know or an event doing it here

because they'll pad premiums and put the

event on

um Tyson wants you to get the fight and

we made we made various various um

moves to try and make that happen and it

just didn't happen it was nothing to do

with Tyson it was the fact the truth for

the matter is the bottom line is is that

usick wants to take walk away with what

he feels he's going to get 70 75 million

dollars to do the fight

in December or early next year and I'll

get that and understand it but that

wasn't Tyson's fault Tyson was willing

to take less money to make the fight

here what does the timeline now work for

you with Tyson Fury then yeah that's the

key we're not we're not being dictated

but to anybody what's going to happen

we've we'd have been sitting around

waiting that which has been happening

and that's not the Saudis that's not

skill challenges for because they've

made it very clear that they can't put

the put any fights on till late December

now pushing it back again they made that

very clear what is clear is that the

other Fighters don't want to jeopardize

a big payday by fighting on in the

interview it's the same thing that's

going on at the moment with uh with AJ

he doesn't want to fight that you know

why did why why is he not fighting

dillian white why didn't he fight Tyson

Fury for 60 40. all those reasons are

because he didn't want to jeopardize a

big payday that he's supposed to be

getting if he fights uh Deontay Wilder

that is the true for the matter in the

meantime Tyson was willing to fight in

both here at Wembley we had the dates

book everything pencils dates pencil in

everything for it but they were not

interested

and that's the truth of the matter as

you can imagine we're getting reaction

on social media and everywhere and of

course it's whether you care for it or

not but for example Matthew Gould here

said about Tyson Fury the most inactive

Champion ever can't be bothered to hear

anything about him for example now Tyson

Fury does take to social media he does

put out videos telling us this

potentially is going to happen something

is happening on the horizon does that in

a way make your diff your job more

difficult because you're having to deal

with these videos that sometimes don't

lead to anything when do you lose it

last fight

um lost to August wasn't it well ties

has been more active than him

at the start we had two fights last year

and he would have fought again if Saudi

Arabia delivered if skills challenge

said what they were trying to do come on

come on

in April 29th yeah we're gonna compare

to fighting criteria 06 full uh oh six

fault Joshua and your boy's fault Derek

chisora no he thought he's mandatory at

Wembley he thought he's mandatory and

went and the reason

is because usik was not ready to fight

you understand that but you're comparing

records so I'm pulling up

no no I'm answering the question the

question put back activity he said he

was inactive he's not been inactive he's

been fighting and he would have fought

more this year had the the fights that

was proposed been put through if he

hadn't a full chisor or anybody in

December he would have been inactive

waiting for this fight to happen until

the first quarter of 2024 so please do

me a favor but surely there's only two

fights for Tyson Fury at this stage in

his career so Joshua fight and it's a

you sick fight those are the two fights

that the world wants to see but those

are the two phones

is that fair I don't think the world

would watch a fight against Joe Joyce or

Zing Zang I think when they when when uh

Daniel Dubois knocks over knocks over

who's sick they'll watch that if he

beats you sick and I think people will

want to see uh Fury in Dubai and that's

what happens but but I think those are

the two we can't sit around waiting for

waiting for something to happen we've

got to make do the best we can under the

circumstances and and we've got to make

make the Right Moves but we feel

all the right things to do and and as I

just said there's no you talk about

inactivity there's another guy's it is

pretty much been actively inactive is is

uh Joshua and he didn't want the fight

we offered Joshua to fight 64. he didn't

want it yeah so wait but he's not yeah

last December you mean but that's an

unfair comparison Frank because he was

offered it in December yeah I know he's

just come off the back of a meaningful

set of fights against us if it was the

other way around you wouldn't have

suggested for Joshua

a couple of months ago was not coming

off of a win

um okay that's fine okay that's true but

there's a background narrative that's

built up and it's been allowed to build

up by Tyson there's lots of noise and

you don't like it and you get all

defensive about it right a lot of noise

he's a WBC champion in the world we

listened to him last year but he wasn't

going to fight he found it about saying

he wasn't going to fight didn't pay his

million pound bet to Piers Morgan when

he did fight right and we've got a WBC

champion here that seems to be given

latitude by the WBC which is all because

he's such a meaningful Champion he

doesn't have to fight until he feels

like it I mean

hang on a minute it's less it's just

over a year ago that he had his

mandatory right okay so his mandatory is

not due yet it's not latitude how long

does that how long so he can have a

manager of 18 months can he uh it's

unless it's called for and it was called

for because what they said is that

um uh Deontay Wilder had to fight Ruiz

and the winner of that would be the

mandatory that was what they called for

and neither of those wanted to fight

each other so there's no mandatory

that's not Tyson Fury put aside

mandatory then for the purpose of this

conversation insert meaningful then

way too meaningful fights all year we've

been trying to make too many full fights

why don't they want to fight Tyson Fury

because they're waiting to get these big

paydays but no one's had a contract

offer yet from sorry that's what's so

weird about it there's nothing weird

about it what it is is they have they

are they are convinced that they will

get these offers and maybe they will but

they've said that they may they may have

to push it back until the first quarter

of 2024 but they're waiting for that and

I'll get that and understand but don't

keep saying that we're not trying to

make fights or he's ducking people we've

made offers you know for for just think

it through you're asking why they're not

happening we offer

uh Joshua who's had a fight now we

offered him that fight for September and

there's nothing wrong he's incapable

because he's training for a fight

allegedly for August we offer in the

fight you've got the 60 40.

don't worry about rematches and all that

you don't want them straight into it

that's where we go and he hasn't taken

it why hasn't he taken it because he

wants the big payday in Saudi so that's

why yeah

oh six fighting he's trying to get a big

pay down south didn't he he's not fire

no is he fighting he's fighting your boy

because he's older to fight him right

otherwise he wouldn't be fighting at

what point is Tyson Fury as a WBC

defending heavyweight champion that

hasn't had a mandatory now for 17 months

at what point is someone going to step

in and say about time you fought someone

if you've got a mandatory Challenger and

he hasn't got a mandatory they could

have mandated Frank Sanchez who's number

four couldn't they

neither of them look first of all I'm

not in a WPC business that's their

choice to what they're doing they

offered the number one and two and they

were up until a few weeks ago I

understand still negotiating yeah

because they're looking at I suppose as

a fallback if this thing doesn't happen

yeah but Wilde is waiting for Saudi

money it's it's George Warren your son

told me this best it's a blessing and a

curse and right now it's a curse

it's not your fault

is not saying it's your fault but the

people listening want to know a solution

to this and there isn't one at the

moment and it's the fight fans who are

being cheated isn't it at the end of the

day it's why did all the golfers all

walk away

from the from the governing body at the

time that's on it to form their own

thing why did they do that they did it

for money and now what they now they've

got together because money's called for

it to happen why did that and it's no

different with a boxing they said why

are some of why why a lot of footballers

now going to Saudi Arabia to play in

their league for money so what do you

know no it's not it's not we all know

that Frank but I think people would

actually prefer people to come out and

actually say it and so tell you what I'm

not fighting I'm only going to fight at

the end of the year I'll tell you what

I'm gonna do I'm gonna stop Fanning

about I'm misrepresenting the only place

I'm going to fight a sad exam place I'm

going to get paid right and what we've

got is Tyson because Tyson I I believe

is the generational great right and I

would like to see him make the fights

that get made and I understand that

there was challenges in getting Joshua

to get you get in a ring because he's

the other Financial Express train well

that's merited or not but between

chisora and where we are today what

people have listened to is a lot of

noise from Tyson and people are

beginning to get an impression which

you're trying to correct that the

reasons why deals don't happen is not I

don't think Tyson Fury is ducking people

I think he makes it difficult to do

business with him why because I think he

has an impression of what he should get

from the fight and he's not going to

move from that so okay

to me I'm going to fight Michael Kessler

but I tell you what I'm I'm gonna do a

deal because I'll fight a 50 50 because

it makes it happen

I'm not sure your boy does that I'm not

sure he's particularly facilitatory in

making sure an outcome happens why he

publicly offered 60 40 to Joshua who's

coming off a loss and and reiterated

that offer so why is what do you think

should we get 50 50 no not in that

instance

you're just you just made a comment you

just said that he does that well he

didn't do it because you're Josh I'll

have to I'll have to bow to your

knowledge about offering him fights this

year but when he offers him 60 40 last

year nobody in their right mind that's

managing Joshua would stick him in that

fight it was a Mickey take you guys knew

it you're taking Joshua it is because he

wasn't ready and your boy wouldn't have

been ready either and no one would have

advocated for it and you only wanted a

few minutes

training to fight in November and fought

in December of course he was ready your

your boy fought dillian white in a

one-sided beat down seven months before

Anthony Joshua has come out of a

psychologically damaging fight against

someone that's now being sick I don't

agree

let's say I'll I won't agree to it let's

just say you're right about it saying

since then he's come back and had a win

so why didn't he take the fight for 60

40 in September I can't answer that

question because I'm telling me I'm

unaware

I don't answer that question because you

know the answer because you want to

fight in Saudi well that's what I'm

saying okay

but do you worry that the public are

losing love for Tyson Fury

you've got to hate everybody said oh you

keep banging on a batches or a 60 000

people bought tickets for a fight the

guy who buyed a one was the highest

available Contender you can fall some

people some of the time but you can't

for older people I would have I would

have sorry I would have put I would have

paid job Joyce to step aside put Zulily

Zang in with Tyson Fury and made that

fight and you don't like that

conversation but that's what I would

have done no no no no no

it's not bad I don't like I have no

promise Joe Joyce wanted the fight we

tried to make the Zhang fight you just

had him in there you should have put

that to him and asked him and he put it

to you because you're a promoter right I

can't no he's the guy who has the

opportunity to to decide whether he

wants to to call for the rematch and

that's what he did Jim White and Simon

Jordan Monday to Friday mornings from

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