Published June 5, 2023, 1:20 a.m. by Jerald Waisoki
Phillip Schofield has said he is “utterly broken and ashamed” over the affair he had with a younger male colleague, but denies grooming the man.
He resigned from itv last week and was dropped by his talent agency YMU after admitting to an “unwise but not illegal” relationship.
In his first interview since leaving the broadcaster and This Morning, the 61-year-old presenter says: “I did not, I did not (groom him).
“There are accusations of all sorts of things. It never came across that way because we’d become mates. I don’t know about that.
“But of course I understand that there will be a massive judgment, but bearing in mind, I have never exercised that anywhere else.”
Schofield also said that his “greatest apology” was to his former lover, who has been brought the “greatest misery into his totally innocent life”.
He added: “I am deeply sorry and I apologise to him because I should have known better…. I will die sorry. I am so deeply mortified.”
Schofield had reportedly first met the man when he was 15 years old, but said the affair did not begin until he was much older and had begun working at itv.
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so to our top story tonight which is
that breaking news on the Scandal that
is completely engulfing ITV the disgrace
this morning presenter Philip Schofield
has spoken for the first time about his
affair with a much younger colleague
there is a front page of tomorrow's sun
he has told that newspaper tonight that
he is utterly broken and ashamed but he
did not groom him
for the past two weeks Philip Schofield
has been in hiding since the Scandal
break which sort of admit to cheating on
his wife and lying repeatedly to family
friends and his ITV colleagues including
his co-presenter Holly well Scofield
insisted this I know the photos of us
circulating on Twitter look shocking but
I am not a groomer I absolutely know
there is no question I did a bad thing I
was unprofessional one time in a 41 year
career he goes on to say I did a bad
thing I will die sorry I brought the
greatest misery into his totally
innocent life well Scofield also
revealed he's still good friends with
the ex-show runner who is not being
named and says their 30-year age Gap
romance only started once the man was 20
years old after revealing that it
started backstage in his dressing room
after one of this morning's shows well
let's have a clip in full now precisely
popular Schofield has told the Sun
last time we had a conversation was when
I texted Holly and said
don't reply this is after the statement
last week don't reply you're probably
not allowed to
but I am deeply deeply sorry that I lied
to you
um
and I am
it was the one Secret in our sanctuary
that was never mentioned
okay pretty bombshell stuff let's bring
Thursday night's first edition panel for
their reaction with me tonight Economist
Miata fambulay and the conservative peer
and the former culture Minister Lord Ed
Daisy Ed Miata uh good to see you and
let me come to you first as it happens
you are indeed a former culture Minister
longer serving former culture Minister
television certainly came under your
remit
obviously pretty interesting news that
Philips covert has decided to speak it
clearly feels he's got a lot to say your
reaction and first up
what does this change if anything
I there are two narratives going on here
one is as it were kind of to put it very
crudely and it may sound a bit uh
facetious given the seriousness of the
issue and and the lives that have been
really badly affected by this Scandal uh
is it's a crisis PR battle and each side
is where is getting their story out to a
certain extent idv has got a story out
saying it's all Phillip schofield's
fault Phillip Schofield is now fighting
back with a long interview in the Sun
but the other story in the story where
as it were the politicians as it were
might have a role to play is ITV and as
you said it in your opening you know
this is a crisis that has engulfed ITV
this morning they announced an inquiry
led by a very senior Barrister Janet
Mulcahy who is going to look at into
what has happened and the question that
lies behind any issue like this when it
affects a business and it's almost
irrelevant ITV is a media business
except for the fact that it's such a
high profile story is who knew what when
and which senior people knew what when
and where will this stop where will the
buck stop as this emerges because from
what I gather and obviously everyone is
talking about the story you know lots of
people knew about this for many years
and there's an age-old narrative that
you protect as it were your talent the
person who's bringing in your viewers
and did they do that at the expense of a
vulnerable young man so all those
questions have to be answered and it's
interesting as well ITV wrote to ofcom
which is the media regulator and to the
Secretary of State for culture ITV is
going in front of a select committee in
Parliament next week by coincidence but
it's relevant because there's a very big
Media bill going through Parliament and
ITV is a public service broadcaster it
is regulated by ofcom via Parliament so
things that damage itv's reputation and
as it were its corporate standing are
serious and are to a certain extent
political questions in answer to those
viewers who maybe say why on Earth would
MPS even bother to get involved in this
issue so that is what is happening at
the moment and how ITV comes through
that will be a story I think that will
develop over the next few days and weeks
yeah and uh in fact Kelly McCall itv's
chief executive is coming back in front
of the snake committee for her own
hearing and precisive subject the week
after next as well so it's a bit of a
double grilling coming their way Miata
though
let's look at the I suppose the nub of
what Philip Schofield is saying tonight
uh and the accusation is he met this
Runner when he was 15 years old he got
him a job on the program and then he
started a sexual relationship with him
which by anybody's book is wholly
inappropriate he's able to lie to pretty
much everybody about it
he's saying though which is I guess the
most important fact he's trying to put
on a public domain tonight that their
relationship although still utterly
inappropriate because they have a very
senior powerful figure in television
having a relationship with incredibly
Young Junior impressionable person he
was 20 years old when that relationship
began so there's no question there was
any illegality there because according
to Philip Schofield anyway he was old
enough to pass any age of consent and
although presumably to know what he was
doing does that change anything for you
I don't think it does because in the end
the behavior wasn't appropriate and he
conceives that himself and in the end
all of this has to be investigated for
me at the Crux of this is a duty of care
to someone that was young and vulnerable
in a professional setting uh you had
someone that was incredibly powerful in
that setting it's whether that power was
used in any way
um and then the second bit for me is who
knew what I think that is the Crux of
the matter what was covered up and it's
not just about the relationship as I
understand it it's how when the
relationship broke down uh you know the
individual in concerned was treated so I
think it's a whole package of things and
I think there's probably a lot more to
come out and that's why it needs to be
properly investigated and the key here
is the reputation of ITV and you cannot
stand as a broadcaster you know complete
uh respect and have the confidence and
Trust of the public and then be seen to
keep things behind and allow an
appropriate Behavior to go and Challenge
and unchecked
and basically what we're getting on to
here is who at ITV knew what and when is
that right yeah that is right and that
is absolutely right and that's what how
this how this story will develop and
it's about itv's corporate reputation
and there will be a business story to
this ITV share price hasn't been doing
so well in the last couple of years and
what will the board decide uh the
measures and what will happen obviously
with this inquiry we hope is first of
all obviously the facts will come out
and they may be perhaps even more
shocking than what we've seen already
but secondly that there will hopefully
be a plan for ITV to make sure something
like this doesn't happen again because
we are talking and we're going to be
talking about it again in the context of
Westminster again about an age-old thing
of power relationships and the abuse of
power what measures can you put in to
stop that happening and it is pervasive
in all walks of life whether it's the
media law firms or whatever and will
that pass muster and they will even
though ofcom doesn't really have a
technical role here because ofcom's job
is to regulate the content that ITV puts
out but will oftcom and indeed the
government agree with what ITV is doing
ITV will want to bring the government
and parliamentarians MPS and of com with
them on this journey but they've got to
act swiftly they've got to be decisive
and they can't take any half measures
they can't say they can't try and get
away with anything now it's now kind of
become the biggest kind of media story
for quite some time and ITV can only
really start to come back from this by
being full and Frank and open and it may
be that some heads will have to roll I'm
not going to speculate on which ads they
may be I don't have a the ITV organogram
in front of me but that may well be the
case uh we can bring you a little bit
more detail now from this interview in
the sun physical field says this about
its relationship with ITV certainly
we're not suing ITV for breach of
contract I guess that's not a huge
surprise to anybody certainly not
demanding a settlement package either he
says and said I think when you you've
caused this damage you can expect
nothing it's my fault I completely
understand that's not particularly
surprising uh it goes on to say some
other things that ITV have offered in
therapy he's yet to accept it and said
he's relying on his wife daughters and
friends for their support he also says
that he did not use ITV money to pay for
taxis for the man who of course then was
his lover saying I don't have an ITV
account speaking about his life after
the Scandal Phillip Schofield wants to
make this clear that he's a Broken Man
in fact he says I'm in a very bad way
mentally utterly utterly broken I feel
embarrassed and ashamed I've just felt
like I was going lower and lower and
lower and lower and then this bizarre
numbness washes over you like a
selfishness his words I do not think I
will ever be able to walk down the
street ever again is like everybody
knows I can't go out
Miata
he has done something pretty bad here uh
whether ITV were complicit in covering
up we will find out and obviously
interesting about select committee is
you purify the selectivity you cannot
lie you can put out statements that
might mislead the media we don't know
whether writing had done that or not but
in front of a parliamentary select
committee you are under oath and if you
don't tell the truth till then you're in
very serious trouble indeed but
there's also a human element of all this
if I was in a lot of trouble if Phillip
Schofield was in a lot of trouble I
guess my advice would say go out and say
you're desperately desperately
desperately sorry
do you have any sympathy for him as a
human being do you think this is a
another play
look I think he's obviously really
broken it's mortifying his careers and
tatters so a very human level of course
you will feel
you know sadness it's a life destroyed
and there's another life on the other
side of it that has been really badly
impacted
um but in the end for me there is a
bigger piece here which is that point
about abuse of power that is far too
pervasive you know across the piece and
if we want to stop that we have to call
it out and there has to be no tolerance
and whether it's in the media realm or
it's in Westminster there has to be no
tolerance because otherwise you just
don't shift the behavior and I think
that is the key and that unfortunately
you know on top of the lives that have
been massively damaged that's the bit
that matters okay we've actually got a
little bit more video from the Sun
interview we can play in our them
obviously talking to Philip Schofield
let's have another look
my biggest regret is getting into a
relationship work
everybody
to every single person
I am
deeply sorry
and I I apologize to him
because I should have known better
okay well this is interesting stuff out
of me I said Ed
what do you think changes when I see you
come in front of the select committee
Phillip Schofield I guess you can say
whatever he wants but it's not really
going to change I think if I was on the
select committee I would give ITV quite
a hard time to be honest with you
because I think the tone of their
reaction to this crisis has been to say
it's Philip schofield's fault uh Philip
Schofield says that interview it is his
fault of course it is his fault and by
the way I totally agree with Miata there
is a human element to this uh and
however appallingly someone has behaved
you've got to remember they are a human
being and what he's going through there
particularly that interview which must
have been gruesome uh is not something
any of us would want to go through but I
think I would be tough with them by
saying you can't simply get away with
saying uh that this guy lied to you and
that's the end of it and that you
investigated three years ago because as
I say I mean this is to a certain extent
rumor and anecdote but all of us who
work as it were or are involved in the
media now this story has come to light
for someone like me who didn't know
anything about it beforehand but it is
apparent that lots of people working in
the media knew about this over the last
three years and to me sitting as an MP
knowing that I would think uh I'm not an
MP just for the fuse benefit if I had if
I were an empty would be uh it's just
not credible it's just not credible that
you didn't kind of know something was
going on and you didn't intervene and it
is not credible now to say we didn't
know anything we took him at his word we
did a bit of an investigation and we all
moved on because it's blown up and
you've got to be you've got to do a cut
there's got to be a male mayor culpr at
the kind of executive level as well
otherwise any measures they put in place
to stop something like this happening in
the future yeah will not be credible
what do you mean by America at the
executive level whatever has happened
well I said earlier that I've seen it
seriously I would be very surprised and
I'm not going to speculate who it might
be I would be very surprised if some
Executives did not get
uh embroiled in this dispute and that
heads might have to roll in the future
at the moment when this crisis started
people thought Phillip Schofield leaves
the program end of story it is very
obviously Pages two three four five six
and seven of Tavares son it is very
obviously not the end of the story and
it won't be the end of the story if ITV
go in front of a select committee with
MPS who will want to ask questions and
they'll ask the obvious questions the
questions all of us would ask but as you
say they'll be doing it in public with
the executives on the race to say uh
what did you actually know and what
measures were placed and what actions
did you take and so on and so forth okay
yeah well the duty of care was with ITV
it's a junior member of staff and how
they protected that Junior member of
Staff both going into that relationship
but when the relationship broke down for
me is the key question and that does sit
with them and that is what they have to
be held to account and if there are
heads that rolled it should be it should
be because of that
okay pictures now you can see your
Phillips Schofield with the runner he's
being pixelated because he's not being
identified uh for kind of obvious
reasons I suppose we really do need to
know who did what when how and why
before we can start talking about his
Dental there are pretty important rules
in place in this country over why well
that is that breaking news tonight
Phillip Schofield has spoken to the son
to say he is desperately ashamed he is a
broken man but he did not groom the
runner who later went on to become his
lover
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