► INTERVIEW w/ ARTIST KELLY YATES

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today interview with artist Kelly Kelly

Yates and who is Kelly Yates well you're

going to be finding out very shortly out

there what I'm going to do is a little

something a little bit different let me

go ahead and bring in the team

but let me go ahead and unmute them

because let me go ahead and say hi to

everybody hello Nick Smith how you doing

there my friend I am doing great thanks

for asking all righty from the uh Cosmic

mask uh uh and also Dave Chapman from

the rattle.ch how you doing today Dave

he's just looking at his screen

he's looking very good he's sleeping

thought I think he's doing well I mean

he's not

gonna be here Nick because my screen

just froze so you might be making fun of

me okay that's right

okay let me start all over Dave from the

Rat Hole down here are you doing there

my friend okay

hi

professional Kelly I swear to God we are

professional in fact in just a moment

here but you know what I'll do it right

now this is gonna be something slightly

different

yeah he's gonna be hosting the show

today how you doing there Melanie

welcome I'm doing quite well I'm very

excited to be playing the the host part

of this of of this little journey that

we're gonna have but mostly I'm very

excited to be speaking to this gentleman

over here we are we are very excited let

me bring up his headshot because it's it

uh you know it's it's quite wild we have

Keanu Reeves here

yeah I wasn't gonna go on an episode

without this there this is Kelly get the

joke done yes just get it out of the way

there yeah you're just trying to get

this way yep artist and stunt double for

uh for a very uh particular Hollywood

man how is it going there is that the

Kelly is going there welcome and thank

you for joining us here at the legend of

the traveling Tardis tell us a little

bit about there well well thank you for

having me for my first experience of the

legend of the traveling tourism excited

to be here

um I will say people say like hey you

know you kind of look like Keanu Reeves

I kind of think he actually looks more

like me though there you go

we are

awesome but I've gotten it for years

even with short hair just it's uh even

since like Bill and Ted Point Break all

that so

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how long have you been doing those uh

Wick movies

you know I'm not hosting there it's all

up to Melanie but I'm going to be doing

your chat so I'm going to be doing uh

chats out there so cool um Melanie take

on over I'm gonna okay so I guess I

guess I'm starting on over so there's

we're gonna start with the first comment

which is nothing but question Arts

question marks that's that's and I think

this is just chip uh

yeah yeah

but let's go ahead and we're going to

say hello to Andrew we say hello to the

Reds rating rants uh Nick Nico bat thank

you for joining us yeah we got a lot of

people out there and Dave just because

he wants to and the Candyman

says hello to everybody out there

uh how hashtags works right he's just

um meditating there you go sure just

keep over all of that

good guide comedy golden that's in those

comments

that's how hashtags work you know I

leave it to the professional

There You Go Thomas right keep going

there's two comments there you go there

you go

Legend the traveling Tardis yeah yeah

current one and then we got the Matrix

five on Gallifrey nice

okay so I'm just gonna start off with

that now I I started we were chatting a

little bit before uh before we went on

air and everything and how how I was

kind of reading through your CV a little

bit of the about us page uh on your uh

on your website

um art of Kelly yates.com

uh no Kelly Yates yard

but then when you get on it it says the

art of the videos I'll make things clear

you know money

why not there it is

um so you started drawing a little later

in your career it wasn't something that

you you were you were kind of doodling

while you were in college so can you

tell me when when did you really when

did you start getting the the creative

bug and then realized you know what I'm

gonna nurture this

uh that's always a great question always

uh I for me it started I was always in

the comic book starting about 12 years

old I got into them started kind of

exploring it but you know

um I was in school I was kind of playing

sports I was playing football I actually

played a year of college football

um and I was like those guys got pretty

big pretty quick I'm like this is not

disposed the way but you know I was I

was doing these more athletic things and

I was going to the University of North

Carolina at Greensboro studying exercise

support science for three and a half

years but in the background I was

reading comic books and joining uh that

type of uh sci-fi culture

and uh you know I got three and a half

years into my program and I'm just like

I don't think this is what I'm supposed

to do in my life

um and so I always kind of doodled a

little bit you know kind of drawing a

little bit on the side of the paper in

the classroom and literally a guy that

went to school says man you want to be

an artist I was like hmm I wonder if I

could

so I actually start working at comic

book store and now I get home and doodle

and keep drawing you know get like

anatomy books and when I turned 21 I was

like I think this is what I'm supposed

to do so I ended up going to a place

called Guilford Technical Community

College because I didn't know how to

turn on a computer literally my first

class there at this Community College

the guy's like okay we're gonna turn on

these macintoshes and this is like 93

94. we're gonna turn and we're gonna

start up paint and do pixels and blow I

mean like this was like free Photoshop

one I mean this is what it was and I

literally raised my hand and I was like

um how do you turn on a computer

everyone

has to do something first every no

matter what everyone has to do something

for the first time you didn't you don't

get just you know spit out at the

hospital from your mama and go okay well

I know I know mathematical science

yeah and from there it's just this

gradual building learning how to draw

studying art books studying another

artist learning tips and techniques from

other people and just kind of like it's

just years of applying it and I think

I've been pretty successful so

did you have did were you drawn to a

specific medium at first and then moved

into like the digital age as as it kind

of grew along with with you

yeah absolutely I've always been into

the comic books like I said that was

kind of what I was I didn't want to be a

fine artist I mean I like the idea of

painting and doing things like that

um but I was always always have and

always will be drawn to comic books

visual storytelling

um but there was always the traditional

just pencils inks that type of thing and

there definitely was a transition

in my career to moving more digital so I

was doing kind of like digital layouts

and then printing out an income

traditional sometimes now deadlines and

a lot of edits I work full digital but

just really depends on you know the

project at the end of the day

dude

now I'm I love reading comics and I only

know a little bit of the actual

the process of of doing sequential art

as one of my friends went to school for

and I went what's that mean he goes

comic books I'm like ah thank you

um but I know that there's a difference

there's a difference between a penciler

an anchor and then a letterer so did you

find that you were one of those or one

of those more your Forte and

well it's fine so as you've seen some of

these images I think on the opening

screen it's like you know uh the

illustrations with the colors that's all

me so I do all my own colors all my own

designs it's all me doing all the

illustrations however when I first

started I did just want to be I want to

be a penciler that's all I wanted to be

you know I'll just I just want to draw

somebody else can ink me so I can color

me so I'm making a letter

let them do that let me just pencil and

be dynamic well a couple jobs into doing

a couple pencil projects I start

figuring out like oh my gosh these inks

the inks they're putting down over me is

not what I envisioned so I started

having to learn how to Ink myself a

little bit okay to get a little bit more

I want

then the more starting projects out

there

um some coloring projects I was like oh

gosh this is this is not what I wanted

this is not what I wanted and again it's

nothing against like anybody it's just

not what I envisioned how I wanted my

art to be so learning how to color so

it's just it was more of this necessity

of I wasn't satisfied with what I was

seeing so that's when I started learning

it and I like it too because at the end

of the day it is my full illustration my

full vision

um and that's why I probably do a little

bit more cover work and less sequential

work interior work just because it's

very difficult to do all of it interior

this is the volume of it time so

unless you get the cover you're on the

front

and that's really the important thing

right next next next to the paycheck of

course right all right

sometimes more yeah yeah this doesn't

pay much but it'll give me a little bit

more notoriety it's a yeah is tricky

what was your first comic job like how

did you break into the industry because

I mean I'm I'm more familiar and a lot

of our audiences can be familiar with

you with Titan

um with Doctor Who and you know Doctor

Who podcasts all this fun stuff but what

was your first

was that your first No Doctor Who was

not my my first stuff

um some of my first work was uh actually

doing a couple of Pinups and small books

I couldn't even tell you half of them I

remember one of them was Telos which was

a independent book by Mike Ringo and

Todd dizago

um those guys so that was one

opportunity

um actually uh Michael Ringo who uh

he was one who actually tried to get me

my first job this all kind of like

pre-internet and so somebody said hey

Mike's trying to reach you by phone so

we missed opportunity to do something

early on in my career with uh with

Street Fighter which would have been

really cool to do at the time but missed

opportunity but it is what it is uh but

going out to San Diego Comic-Con meeting

editors meeting people like that uh

finally met a guy at DC Comics and he

gave me an opportunity to do a green

arrow

um secret files eight page story that I

did so and then which led to like

another short story like a jlhsa short

story so those were some of my first

published works Oh wow was that during

like their portfolio reviews that they

do

yeah yeah yeah it's it's changed a

little bit now but yeah he's like you

had to get line at DC or Marvel actually

at their booths out at San Diego yeah so

that's how it worked very cool yeah what

comic book do you relate yourself to the

most what what comic speaks to you the

most out there that jumps out and goes

hey this is me

this is me well uh gosh well I might

actually say my own book and we can talk

more about layers uh Creator and book

called Amber Adams and I was originally

published through Image Comics I mean I

guess I guess it's because it comes for

me right okay there's the cover from the

uh the new uh Kickstarter uh but that's

me that's who I that's my story that's

my art that's my everything so there's a

there's a lot of as we say Blood Sweat

and Tears and that so that's kind of the

one I identify with the most at this

point so but but I do love I love a lot

of other books too I love Star Wars

comic books I love I love a lot of

independent books uh just a little bit

of everything so I still go to the

conference store like every Wednesday

go see what the new stuff's out yes

prediction it's an addiction I'm

surprised that you said Star Wars as I

look around the background here between

clearly the the episode uh to a poster

no S3

that's two that's two okay that's two

and the Stormtrooper helmets but now I

need to know is what is the toy up there

that is a vintage Death Star set

my neighbors when I grew up they walked

over and gave it to me like would you

like this like yeah

would you like this

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one man's trash is another man's culture

right

I found really great Doctor Who stuff in

a garage sale so I'm just like oh you

don't like Doctor Who okay oh that's so

sad

I'm sure we could do something with this

I don't know

uh we got a question from rebs Raves and

rants the most important question of all

time do people constantly ask you to be

a character in your work

um

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well well I think Kiana's

kind of thing going right now that's

true I forgot about that he's doing fine

on his own it was kind of like when he

when they first announced he was doing a

comic book I'm like wait wait wait I

don't intrude on your movie stuff

don't do that

no I actually I know uh the artists that

work with him Ron Garney I've known for

years and everything a great illustrator

great guy and I have just loved seeing

the success of him and Keanu working

together it's been fantastic

so one more one more uh note of me just

lurking in your in your background there

um and so then you have a drafting table

I know this is welcome to the wide world

of after after uh covet and zoom

meetings and stuff everybody that's what

everyone looks at it's like oh where

what what else is around there but I see

that you have like a a drafting table do

you tend to draw mechanically first and

then digitize or did you take to digital

like just a duck to water or what's

what's your kind of process

well I yeah well I think it was that

transition again I did everything kind

of traditional with pencils and and

brushes and and that type

um the big risk for me was now this was

like 15 years ago it was like

do I want to buy a Wacom cintiq Wacom

tablet you know like one of the big ones

I was like does that one I mean they're

like 2 500 and I've never used one

before and at that time they're like

well they're still like yeah 100 but I

was like gosh will I get any use of it

will be worth my time you know uh money

the whole thing

um I was like I'm gonna just take a

chance and take a chance and I mean it

paid for itself within like six months

and I mean I worked but I pretty much do

I still do traditional pencils from time

to time I'm doing sketches uh but I do

um do a lot of my layouts digital just

to and sometimes I'll print them out

blue line and ink especially if I'm

doing a color a doctor Cover

particularly I still like to have the

original art so I will do it digital if

there's any edits and I'll make those

edits printed out blue line which those

don't know what what that is is blue

line is just an old way of like printing

out

um when you scan it in the blue

disappears we have black ink over so we

call it blue line

um but blue line is just like a light

outline you can follow when you're

inking and it pretty much disappears

when you put the Black Ink down

um so I still like to have traditional

artwork uh uh for that but uh so and

then I'll scan it back in and color in

Photoshop

but but if I do have to work just

because of uh deadlines or something if

I have a full digital Photoshop and clip

Studio paint are my my go-to tools

yeah okay but I do use the I do use the

uh

like once in a while it's like I'm just

gonna actually use paper what is this

this is crazy

this is a different different drawing

process though you know when you pull a

pin across the the paper it's got that

you fill the little micro Textures in

the paper you don't you don't think

about it but then when you're drawing on

this plastic glass this is whoa you know

you can go a little bit fast on it and

it's uh you know thinking it's for

command Z so on the flip side I'm doing

something traditional and I mess up I'm

like oh let's hit command Z I'm like

it's real world I can't command Z can

you do that and you can't go like you

know what I don't like this I'm going to

do that a few times several times you

just keep just hold down you're like

there we go I'm gonna start back to here

again what was my last save I can't

remember

do you speaking of digital do you create

your own brushes or do you is there a

specific like brush pack that you use

are you kind of

no I don't create my own brushes I mean

I've done that every once in a while if

I need to but there's so many great

resources for that now you know Kyle

Webster has a whole pack of them I think

he's sold a lot of stuff to Adobe so a

lot of those actual brush sets are in

the Adobe program now so I mean

it's rare that you'd have to create your

own brush unless it's like extremely

specific need that you need Loft

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we're back welcome to the legend the

traveling Tardis my name is Christian

basil and we have a special guest our

interview with artist Kelly Yates and

today I'm going to be doing production

and Melanie is hosting this particular

episode and we got a few surprises for

you during our uh show so without

further Ado let's bring back Kelly and

the team and thank you for coming again

Kelly and for those of you in the chats

please uh chat away any questions you

got for Kelly

um we will be announcing he will be at a

certain convention at the end of this

month I mean I'm sorry at the end of

this week and we may be there too not

physically but we'll get into that

discussion a little bit later on out

there

oh but Nick

I will be that Nick will be there

unfortunately the Tardis won't be there

but Nick if you want to check out Nick

and the man who writes up those Cosmic

masks uh you get a chance to talk to him

over at uh well we'll announce it we'll

talk about it in fact some of you right

now you may be on the Facebook page to

chat about that but then uh without

further ado

I've been having a good time asking

so I want to say Nick Dave I promise

I'll shut up now we got questions

apparently I'm up okay so oh I've you've

done the doctor who you've done a bunch

of stuff we'll get to the chats not

counting your own

what is there a property you'd like to

work on down the road

whether it's a you know a regular comic

is it a IP from TV film whatever is

there something you kind of just like oh

that that project ever happens yes

grabby hands I I have my one my one boy

there's a couple things you always want

to work on like I would love to work

with do Star Wars cover or something I

you know however the one I'm really

interested in working at I think uh

people of a certain age might appreciate

this Land of the Lost

not that Will Ferrell stuff I'm talking

about

the original will and Holly

at least like a graphic novel or

something like one story you know I just

uh I think it'd be kind of unique and

fun would you really try to spin it so

it's more I don't know horror or or

realism econ or you're just gonna

embrace the fact of when it was made and

be like this is this is the style I'm

going for it

well I've seen some interviews with the

the uh well and actually I was sitting

beside the one of the guys who

originally wrote the show back in the

day and uh they really wrote the show

they didn't write it for kids it was a

kid's show but it was written for adults

yeah it was written for adults it just

happened to be a kids show so I think

that's what I like about it you know I

had these themes in it just happened to

be a kid's show wait a minute wasn't a

part of Southern Marty Croft or my my

thing or something oh okay all right

that's weird yeah okay yeah but yeah

that turn I could see as a show nowadays

like if you kept that tone you can make

it a little bit darker Like a Stranger

Things Vibe a little bit maybe

oh that would be oh that would be unreal

just with the lighting and the sound and

just production value going okay this is

where we're going with it now yes if you

were to take over would you modernize

the characters or we keep them from the

same time period as the 70s Show I the

nature of the shows I think you could do

any time period you could keep those 70s

characters and still bring in somebody

from like the 2050

it's sad that I'm like sitting here

going imagine if you actually just film

those with the original scripts except

you just put all the production design

all the direction and all that kind of

stuff and yeah you might have to tweak

some of the the script at least more

dialogue whatever

that would be insane but then I'll just

do it in a comic for him and it's like

ah

yeah I want this that's you know when

people complain about the the classic

Doctor Who stuff like oh I can't watch

it because of X Y and Z I was like there

are stories there that will go Toe to

Toe with any modern stuff yeah if it

does have modern Graphics if you know

like genesis of the Daleks or something

like you know there's so many great

stories there uh but doing like modern

Graphics I think we just it would be Toe

to Toe with any of the new Who stuff I

would love to see the talons of Wang

chayang brought up the speed I just want

to see how they do Mr sin and if they

bring Roy Rory deep back to play him

that would be that would just be the

bomb out there

um Melanie it's up to you I got some uh

questions in the chats or gently good I

was gonna say Nick I haven't heard your

voice yet yeah let's back up a little

bit you're uh telling us that you were

reading comics when you were a kid

is there one or a particular ones that

kind of stuck in your head that maybe

inspired you a bit I know

um the comics I read as a kid certain

ones have stuck with me years and years

later yes how about you

yes absolutely

um yeah the one that really got me into

comic books is well so I was on a road

trip with my my grandparents my mom we

we started in North Carolina and drove

South out to California like we took two

weeks a month on trip went out to LA

then came back in Northern route and we

stopped at Yellowstone National Park and

again this was like 82 MTV I'm in the

middle of MTV I need my Motley Crew or

my Aussie or something you know and I

get to this uh The Lodge at the

Yellowstone and they had nothing they

had no TVs no nothing I was like oh my

gosh

it went down to the gift store and they

had a couple of comic books down there I

remember I was I got two of them I don't

remember what the second one was but the

one that picked up was a Chrysler number

seven or eight six maybe seven and it

had Nightcrawler from the X-Men

oh what what what is this you know I

started reading I was like okay

interesting oh this this guy's part of a

team what are these things and

everything so came back home found now

there's a comic book store in my local

town and uh I was like okay X-Men I get

it all right and so that's kind of those

first couple issues with X-Men really

kind of pulled me in and I mean I just

read so many great books over the years

I just uh I was going to this comic book

story a dark night came out when I was

like just kind of first year or two get

into Comics I'm like and I didn't

understand that was like the first

Batman books I'd ever read you know so I

mean I kind of started at the end of the

story like well what's this Batman and

and I think around that same time too

his Watchman came out much too

sophisticated for myself of that age 13

14 I was like I don't you know I mean I

get it now but it's still it's still I

knew it was something special at the

time it was just took me years to

realize how special it was

yeah so things like that it's still

above you it's kind of like doctor who

works it's slightly above your head but

not too far off that you kind of get

what's going on but you're like uh this

is a little smarter than I am right yeah

so what was your Gateway in the Doctor

Who and then we'll get to the chats and

I know a lot of people are putting up

the chance what was your gateway of the

doctor who brought you it which my

Gateway well my Gateway was the local

PBS station now Chapel Hill North

Carolina and the fact that we only had

three channels well four if you actually

include PBS we had four channels

um I was actually the human remote

control for my father so

get up and turn it turn the channel

my dad was growing up he said the only

reason why we had you is because he

hadn't built remote controls yet

wow look at and hold antenna up right

exactly yeah

um I don't mind showing my age I really

don't care we all have when we're born

right when I was your age we only had

three TV channels yeah for some reason

we had 20 we had 20 Channel Changers

only six three six

when the storm would hit and you had an

antenna

sorry that's what it is right

it is what it is now we can get on the

phone and and look at a million things

in two seconds it's crazy it's crazy but

my gateway to Doctor Who

Um so I was flipping my dad slipped away

and I started flipping around the

channels and I get to PBS and there's

this giant robot walking over a village

what the heck is this I don't I wanna

what what what is this and so then I

started trying to figure out what I was

like it was interesting enough again

kind of like Star Wars is out Battlestar

Galactica so it kind of felt in that

range of stuff I was like well I want to

find out more about this again no

internet no such thing as the Doctor Who

magazine in my area at that time I

didn't know what it was and I think I

just tried to tune in the next time to

see what it was or try the next night

and I start figuring out like oh okay so

they're airing this so yeah Tom Baker

robot that was kind of my I think the

fourth issue with our first fourth

episode would have been like the first

thing I saw so I just was pulled in from

there yep yeah full disclosure I've told

people I said I said I don't I don't

remember when I got it so I always said

Robot because I couldn't explain it

right I'm sure it was another episode

but robot I just like I'm making my life

easier I'm just saying robot out there

yeah yeah I get it so I'm a long time

hoovian since the late 70s early 80s did

you want to take the chance or did you

oh I'm gonna take this one because he

can go straight to um hell uh Andrew

Morris says was your TV black and white

and steam

yeah I think there's a spot on the back

of the TV we're able to shovel coal into

the back of the TV to get it to run it

was somewhere on because you remember

how they were all

cabinets basically they were their own

pieces of furniture yeah it's now had

the rabbit antennas yeah yeah there you

go

[Laughter]

and you had to tap them every now and

then just to make it I don't even know I

couldn't even explain the science behind

that I was like what

so I'm trying to click on one it's not

sure it's another Andrew one so I'm

uh who are your favorite comic book

artists and writers ah okay uh well RSL

jumped in uh

uh Olivier Martine is probably one of my

most favorite he's a French artist I've

actually got to work with him a couple

times over the years he did a variant

cover for my Creator own book Amber

Adams the kickstarter we can talk about

later but uh I've been a long time

Olivier fan

um and through him I've discovered all

these amazing French artists like Claire

Wendling and DBA closet game and just

just phenomenal artists um but more

American artists uh Dave Stevens

creator of The Rocketeer Al Williamson

he did a lot of the um gosh he did he

did a lot of Flash Gordon throughout the

years but he was probably I don't say

best known because he's known for so

many great things but he did the

adaptation of Empire Strikes Back for

Marvel Comics just amazing beautiful

work

um and art Adams as well so I mean so I

could just keep going on and on I just

love artists love artists you know

um writers you know I'm all over the

place of writers that's

I don't say I necessarily follow a

certain writer but I know to like I know

when I read it I know that I like it

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um

so

yeah I think it is yeah good nope that's

good no I get that because that's what

gets you into a certain or take this off

real quick that's when when you're

reading certain series

um you'll notice that that they'll keep

the same writers on and that that'll

keep you into that if you're what if

you're reading that particular X-Men Arc

or you're running this Arc you'll you'll

kind of learn which arcs you like and

you're like oh now I remember which

writers are so so I get that the the

finding that that particular person's

voice that sings to you

Brian came on I really enjoy his work

yes yes I mean Saga paper girls yeah I

just started getting into Saga yeah yeah

so he's he's still interests me like oh

my gosh what's this guy gonna throw at

us now you know what I mean he's one of

those ones so

so Mark Robinson has a good question

um Kelly you said that you use Photoshop

what do you think of the new beta

feature uh the generator filter the AI

masking tools uh will it help you or

hinder you

well you know I'm also a graphic

designer outside of comic books

um and I'm I'm kind of I don't want to

get too much in the discussion of AI

just in the sense of like sometimes I

get it it's the future it's a tool or

sometimes I get angry about it sometimes

I'm like I get it it's going to be here

we're going to use it so we there's

that's a whole nother discussion you

know about that

um I will say that I have played around

with it and it's uh it's pretty

impressive uh you know there's there's

it works really well in some cases other

cases it doesn't you know I was messing

around trying to put a lighthouse on a

mountain and it just never quite it gave

you three options it's like okay yeah

but you still got to go in and

manipulate it yeah try to put a boat on

water uh you know hit or miss and

everything however like hey I want to

put snow in the ground you Circle a spot

and say Bill snow it mimics it does that

content aware I feel you know sand or if

it's a photo shot like a a studio shot

of a model in the background you need to

extend out

I mean you do it like that so there are

definitely workflows where it is amazing

here it's not going to going away

um and we're just gonna have to figure

out how to integrate that and use it and

you know and also to give Fair usage to

to artists that it that it has scraped

data from and everything however we got

to figure that out as a society because

it's you know it's not just a I can be

an artist now

you're basically speaking everything

that I've I've so and it's easy

something when it's when a question

where you're asking that to an artist

you can I know personally I can easily

get on a soapbox and I can easily say as

somebody who's had their art scraped

because I went on the website and

checked yeah

um but anyway well I do agree that okay

well I was gonna say the other thing

though that really actually concerns me

more about AI than the scraping week

that's on the thing that actually

concerns me is actually it's a society

does that doesn't understand AI or no

like oh that's a cute penguin or this or

whatever photo it's like they have no

idea of what it is and that scares me

like they don't unders they don't

understand that technology is out there

you know and just the way it can be used

for good or for evil so no but I I do

agree with you that it's it it is it's

here to stay and I do agree that it's

one heck of a tool because I've utilized

a little bit of the content generation

for fixing images and I know some people

like though they did a tick tock and

they're like oh see look oh I'm out of a

job and I'm going not that that those

bricks don't match up that doesn't match

up why are there more lights you could

use it as a tool to go oh I could be

more efficient now and not sit there

with a rubber stamp and have to redraw

everything in this wedding photo yes so

yeah

but

to your point it's it's we'll we'll see

if people use it for good or for evil

yes

um if you want to ever have a laugh

uh I was to give it a kind of give him a

plug

um one of the channels I watch on

YouTube a lot is weird history and they

just a couple days ago did one where

it's on Gregor McGregor so if you want a

good laugh go search for it

it has so much AI generated pictures and

it's 13 minutes my husband and I just

stopped and kept pausing it because

there was hands missing there was a man

that was right there was two men best

one is at two to eleven because I

remember it it's one horse two generals

they're on the same horse because

apparently now it's a Dachshund and the

ladder General has two left legs but

they produced it so okay

um Dave

got a question for our amazing guys I

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Melanie take it away

well I was gonna ask Dave if yes so

we've got

we've kind of circled around yes you've

done all the doctor what else have you

done tell us more about the Doctor Who

tell us more about what you've done I

mean we can see in the background here

we you know we got some doctors here we

you know I got some pictures

tell us what tell us what you've done

tell us if you can what you're gonna do

and maybe what you'd like what's going

on over here

gosh I've worked on so many things for

Doctor Who it's amazing uh you know uh

comic books t-shirts toys everything

else in between so uh gosh

huh I was gonna say you want me to uh

let me switch places with this so

everybody can see you

um oh wow I got some pictures to show

everybody Kelly if you would like me to

run down a few do you want to uh

well you know what if you may jump back

we can also talk about how I got into

working on Doctor Who comics you want to

do the slideshow with the art yeah we'll

do the shy show as well so yeah but yeah

so um I said long time hoovian

um you know the new who starts to come

out IDW Comics it acquired the rights

um and they started putting books out

and I I was doing going to San Diego

Comic Con almost every year again doing

the portfolio reviews and all this

um so I was out there

and uh I want to kind of take my

portfolio to IDW to maybe maybe I get

some Doctor Who work uh just so happens

a previous Studio made of mine a guy

named Robert Atkins was drawing GI Joe

for IDW at the time I was like Robert

were you were you like please take me

over like introduce me to the editor he

goes yeah yeah man I'll take you come on

over and everything uh so we go and uh

he introduced me to the editor uh Denton

Tipton uh and he was looking through my

portfolio against Kelly you know I like

your stuff but you know we're booked up

for the next year you know there's

nothing I can give you I was like I

don't care longtime movie and I'll wait

because it's going to be a year I don't

care pin up a cover a short story

whatever I just want to work on Doctor

Who one time just to say I did Doctor

Who because okay it's gonna be a year

good I'll Circle back with you

um a month after San Diego I get an

email says knock knock opportunity and

they had just a uh one of the artists

was not able to come through on a

project and they asked me to step into

how help out and that's how I got my

foot in the door

um so 2008 so I've been working on

Doctor Who now what 15 years wow wow

that's insane I know oh so be nice and

having the talent to back it up you know

it's paid off for me so but I did you

know so I did a smattering stuff for IDW

I did some short stories I did a like an

annual for them I did a couple issues

with the 11th doctor I'm gonna forget

some things I did a one shot

gosh just issues four and six of the

Forgotten there's more I did in there

but that's where I started home my doing

cover skills and everything I was like

can I do a cover and they kind of start

letting me do that process

um so I had a great great time working

with IDW but then at San Diego again

literally somebody goes so what do you I

got a message somebody sent me like what

do you think about IDW losing the

license to to Doctor Who I'm like I

don't know what you're talking about

like what what do you mean so this was

around the 50th anniversary and the BBC

decided they wanted to kind of shop

around Doctor Who again maybe bring it

back instead of a U.S company publishing

uh Doctor Who comics maybe a British

company would like to publish uh Doctor

Who comics

um and so it was kind of trying to

figure out because it was rumored like

boom was going to get it it was rumor

that Dark Horse was going to get oh even

Marvel was going to get it so everybody

was at that show trying to figure out

who the license was going to end up with

I think we found out like a month later

that it was ended up being Titan

it just so happens that that show uh I'd

gone by Titan and introduced myself not

knowing that they were gonna get the

license and I happened to show my poor

plays like introduce myself to this guy

named Andrew Sumner he's the VP of

entertainment and I didn't know quite

who he was I didn't I wasn't like

targeting him like I'm gonna go show my

stuff to this guy he just happened to be

there

said hey can I show you my portfolio

he's like sure mate and people because I

love it he goes we need to stay in touch

with you so I kind of had a inkling that

something might be going on so but

that's kind of and then of course so I

started working and getting in uh with

Titan doing stuff for them yeah and I

think it's really it's really neat

hearing more stories like this about San

Diego Comic-Con and knowing that it's

not just about purchasing all the fun

toys and all that because I'll be honest

I'm right there trying to get into the

Hasbro Booth but there is so much more

going on from the comic creators the

comic the artists and the portfolio

reviews and the connections and all that

kind of stuff that isn't at another

fandom driven kind of con that there is

that there is a lot of Industry stuff

happening at that particular con but

look I I get the criticism people give

it yeah I went I started going to San

Diego and it's like a mere 40 000 people

in the mid 90s and now it's you know

whatever 253 whatever the number is now

it's a massive show yeah and I get why

people call it corporate con I get that

but those people who hire you that work

at corporations to give you jobs they're

there yeah that's where you meet them

you know so that's what it is no I I'm

I've done the portfolio review and I've

I've and I've gotten better from it

because I've I've lucked out where I've

they've lottoed me and I get in there

but like the big thing I like I like I

tend to tend other tell other people is

don't go in there thinking that you're

the best person in the world go in there

with a portfolio and tell them make me

better

you want those critiques because you

want to be better and they people have

picked that absolutely

Melanie I got some questions in the chat

I want to know these questions in the

chat you've got it here's uh Andrew

Boris again have you ever tried

animating your comics

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no it's hard enough to get one panel out

on me I don't know

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would I love to see myself and now you

want me to make a flip book

I mean that's that's a talent and a

skill

it's amazing no I I haven't though but

but I'd love to see my stuff animated

yeah absolutely gotcha Eric I just says

I look forward to seeing you at Heroes

con next week yes

oh wow yes speaking of which let me go

ahead and uh show everybody where you're

going to be going uh this weekend and we

will be there too uh concast

this weekend June 10th and the 11th

you'll see Nick and Kelly there uh it's

the Holiday Inn Research Park in

Mid-City District Huntsville Alabama the

link is there but I'll go ahead and put

in the chat in just a few seconds for

Comcast

stabbers.net to get your tickets there

uh and uh Kelly will be there I think uh

uh John Barrowman will be there and

quite a few other guests will be there

but more importantly all the whovians

will be there

for the last supposed run of

concastavors so hopefully hey Bonnie hey

concave

[Laughter]

we had Bonnie and Matthew on

yes

I've lost Tommy why me

um she was nothing but just

complimentary of you and all and how

like you're you're her like favorite

person to be at the con and that it's

you know that it it's not concave

without Kelly I bring the fun what can I

say

no no they're great everybody down there

just the community she's built around

that show and uh has really been in fun

it's been fun to be a part of it and

it's just really impressive to see what

they've done with that so it it probably

is the last one I won't speak for but I

hate that it is the last one but I get

it but man to finish such a high note

with getting John Barrowman I uh I know

she's one of that for years and so

that's uh definitely a feather in the

cap for sure

that's a uh the uh the the showrunner

privilege is just like yeah I want this

person this is okay for anybody else I'm

this for me

I was gonna say is I do have one

question regarding Doctor Who and uh

when it comes to drawing likenesses is

there a specific doctor that you just

had a little more of a hard time where

you're when you're doing it you're like

she's not right

oh that's just not right

yeah yeah well that's the power of

command Z yep

um you know there's certain things fine

and cool

from uh their likenesses like if you're

drawing Matt Smith the hair I mean the

hair is the like 90 of it the arch the

eyes people say he doesn't hide eyebrows

he does they're just light and they

start about halfway of where a normal

person when I say a normal eyebrows

start so you got to kind of start them a

little bit more but there's also one

thing I really found out when I don't

draw it on there it looks weird he has

this crease

right on the middle of his of his

forehead and if you don't put it there

it looks weird it looks like oh and you

put it in it's like oh it's Matt Smith

oh wow it's not what it said it's like

I'm putting my finger over the monitor

again

I'll keep walking around saying to Matt

Smith the chin and the crease yes

you find the things to pull out that

makes it the you know you don't have to

be photo realistic with them it's just

finding that balance like what pieces or

elements that really Define their

personality David Tennant the arching

eyebrow you know I mean that's you see

that oh that's David even if the drawing

is off a little bit or whatever you know

so this was actually a fun project to

work on so the BBC reached out to me and

they were doing exclusive DVD collection

of the animated

episodes and uh they want me to

illustrate the the cover for so I gave

them a couple options and they like so

many of them they actually used one on

the back cover as well so that was that

was really cool to kind of uh have my

art on a DVD cover at Walmart

so yeah I would pay real money for that

to be a big finish audio right now

yeah those three together

there was supposed to be I think I was a

doomsday there's supposed to be an

episode with the second and the Ninth

Doctor it's like gone that's just that's

just something bad for him to happen out

there

um so we got your uh pictures up over

here so I'll just cycle through a few

sure yeah yeah this was actually a

t-shirt design I did a couple years ago

for the 13th Doctor and just kind of you

know uh I've done so many of them which

is I'm so I feel so blessed I've been

able to be a part of this universe you

know the businesses are incredible

sandbox

we got

this one was great it was like it was a

weird wall so they told me like this was

an exclusive cover for Hastings like

well we kind of want to take the 11th

doctor maybe put some things with them

but let's see and I was like well let's

let's try this

um and I actually had to lay out my my

doctor who figures so I could pull out

there were so many pieces I had to pull

out elements like oh I got to include

the cane I gotta include this so I had

to kind of do it for myself to kind of

keep things straight you know but um the

editors like because Kelly I don't know

if they're going to go for this because

this was especially a time when the

doctor they weren't doing a lot of

mixing of doctors you know they weren't

trying to blip things they were still

trying to keep things over the ninth

doctor's 9th 10th they were trying to

and they weren't really alluding to the

classic stuff so much at that point so

um there's like we're warning you

they're probably not going to approve it

you know I was like I said that's fine

no problem let's just see what they say

he sent it five minutes later they

approved it they love it it's their

favorite go ahead so but it was so great

because it was where's Waldo type of

thing because we got posted everybody

started like well hold on wait that's

the eighth you know vest and that's the

sixth Jack and they started kind of

going through the whole process of kind

of like a where Waldo uh piece with it

so that was really fun

real money to see Karen Gillen and the

sixth doctor's outfits man

yeah and you see like the scarf too I

mean the scarf is not that long but it's

such a great design element you know you

can make it a thousand feet long it's

just so fun to play with

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some I don't know so me so Andrew I

think dovetailing to before what you

were saying before is which which doctor

is your favorite to draw

favorite straw

s there's so many things Tom Baker's

tough to draw just all that curly hair

you got to nail it or you miss it you

know but uh he's hard to draw sometimes

but you know Peter Capaldi's really fun

to draw you know just like the kind of

Stern face and the the crazy hair I just

said there's something about him I

really like drawing is there a villain

that you like to draw more than else

because I just look at the Daleks going

Mathematica I'm like this has got to

take a tool everybody's like in a sketch

uh Daleks no no they're the most they're

actually very boring actually you know I

mean they're just like

yeah yeah you know I mean there's

they're very mechanical you know and uh

yeah they're they're tough they're tough

um my favorite favorite

I don't have to have a favorite to draw

nah I noticed this picture

The Fugitive The Fugitive doctor Joe

Martin that's right yeah that was really

it's it's really fun I mean I just I've

done this whole series of doctors in

front of the TARDIS you know I think the

only one I haven't done it's just it's

not a lack of wanting to it's just a

lack of time because I'm a very busy

person we're all busy lives but I stay

pretty busy with my art schedule but I

want to Circle back and do the first

doctor and uh the the 11th doctor

actually in the in front of the TARDIS

like this said a series uh I guess I'll

have to do now the 14th one and of

course the 15th okay that actually is or

isn't I don't I don't know yet but are

you slated to do anything with the 14th

doctor

I am

up to here non-disclosure agreements

yes I uh I I might be working on some

14th doctor stuff very cool yeah nothing

nothing I can announce but you might see

in the next couple of weeks before San

Diego okay it's only up to here

so the state staying within your

non-disco your ndas

I can I know that I mean if someone's

telling you okay draw Joe draw the 14th

you know not 14 sorry draw you know all

these other doctors you can go on the

internet and you have a wealth of

reference material are you can are you

allowed to ask for reference material or

is it something kind of that you you're

given maybe one or two and then you're

looking at the actor for other

references or you just like ah I got

this what Melanie what are you even

asking me for so yeah so yes so once

you've signed your life away and all

these documents and and everything I

actually worked with the BBC and

provided uh an art file so I see not

everything but I see enough to give me

the word give me enough information to

get my work done okay yeah so I have

seen things how about that nope that's

cool because I was just trying to try

different art

that I know some people really lean to

needing references others can just I got

it we're good well let's just take the

14th doctor for example there's so much

like you can see stuff on the internet

like the pictures we've all seen leaked

and everything for those who've looked

but it really is hard to get details and

like that so they share yeah I'm not on

the inner circle with the BBC but I'm

definitely on a layer of the circle

where I get enough information to get my

job done you know like like the tie like

you know there's things that are

important like the Plaid the plaids that

are in the suit the 14th doctor suit

there's things you just can't really see

um in those uh sneak peek photos so well

so I do have access to a certain certain

uh reference reference images

I'm looking at the Kawaii doctors and

I'm just like every doctor is looking at

me like I've done something wrong but

they want me to say that I did something

wrong

can you tell us more about how the

Kawaii doctors started and how you honed

this particular style to to make them

cutesy yeah well isn't it crazy I mean

like I have a toy line based off my

artwork you know or my plate

because I saw them at San Diego

Comic-Con I was like those are those are

adorable and then of course I and

they're in mystery packs so you had to

buy them and hope that you were getting

them and then if you're at the Titan

booth and you were very very kind and

nice you could do a Mystery Pack and

then open another one up and they'll

trade it so oh I did Bunnings here but

um you gotta sign up for uh stream yard

my dear but or you gotta allow um stream

yard to find the uh someone said thank

you for all the nice things you said

about them

so yeah so we remind everybody uh this

weekend

uh Kelly will be at concast just in case

it is dot net tickets and info are

available tickets are still available

now and uh you can check out uh John

Barrowman and all the guests that will

be out there and you're gonna be with a

bunch of movies for the last ride of

Comcast address uh by Bonnie and Matthew

and hopefully maybe there'll be a

regeneration there uh Andrew Morris did

pop up a question says have you done the

Cushing doctor no I haven't done

anything that's a good question uh no

nothing

weirdly enough I love the Peter Cushing

doctor well then

yeah because that's the only yeah

because it's it's it's one of those I

mean I understand why eight is sometimes

in thing sometimes isn't because hello

Fox and then

all that kind of stuff but then

Cushing's just that

is he a doctor is he not he's not

canonical to the the number line but eh

it is what it is and speaking of John

Barrowman

hey got some Torchwood going though yeah

that was a fun cover to do so that was

one so

there's another one I did like ice

Maiden uh that was well these are all

covers for the Torchwood comic books

um I don't remember remember this one

but there was a series that he wrote

with his sister so him and his sister

wrote uh a series of Torchwood comic

books and a couple of these I think were

for for those books

um but so but yeah uh so we're talking

about the figures right back the figures

or Torchwood which one figures figures

figures I like how this one has your

grumpy face

yeah he's got he's got wrinkles up there

too but he has I saw that I was just

staring at it going now I see what you

mean so how this started was so I mean

when you look at my artwork you don't

see like this torch with that's not this

is the style I draw in this is my normal

natural how I draw things so the cute

little quiet you know that's not how I

normally draw but I'm a graphic designer

as well so it's in my realm of work and

I've done figure designs before for

other things well what happened is is uh

I get a call from Andrew Sumner a Titan

and then like mate we have a meeting at

Hot Topic tomorrow morning at 10 o'clock

and we need to we want to show them like

the 10th doctor in this cute little koi

style in front of a tardis can you work

us something up by tomorrow morning so

this is like eight o'clock at night so I

was like figured knocked it out pretty

quick within a couple hours sent it off

to them they had the meeting Hot Topic

loved it they made a shirt out of it uh

well it sold so well they wanted to do

some more doctor so we did like a

version like all the doctors on these

little koi style figures of all the

doctors on it

um and it sold out we did another one

with some of the doctors in this style

sold out

will then tighten they were so

successful Titan approaching like hey we

think we want to maybe design some toys

based off of these t-shirt designs and

so we had to yeah that was another one

right

the vortex

yeah

um and so yeah so really I started we

start figuring out like what the body

shapes would be so really from the

ground Foundation up working with Titan

figure out what these are going to look

like

um and just kind of honing the style

down and so they came out and they were

extremely successful

um and from that as well I've designed

uh four four waves in my hero Academia

in this style is based the anime

um gosh love other things I don't know

if they'll ever get produced but

um uh Cowboy Bebop fire force so many of

these anime shows so uh yeah yeah so

it's pretty cool but if you look

actually on the I don't have a box

around me but if you look on the bottom

of the Box they branded with my name

designed by Kelly Yates I mean they

don't have to do that they don't have to

do that so

um if I have a box yeah and most of the

teachers I don't know if all the

teachers most of them they have my name

in there my brand name Kelly Yates I

mean Titan and the BBC don't have to do

that so maybe that one has it let's

start looking now

ah it does

look at that I mean wait a minute wait a

minute let me get let me uh let's get

there we go right right there right I

mean they they don't have to do that but

it's such a great relationship with them

you know I appreciate it that they do

that so it's uh yeah it's awesome

I put you back Dave stop no it's not me

I'm producing the air I got you

um and I do have a question just in case

some people may not be familiar with

this particular comic uh amber Adams

tell us a little about that for people

who may just not be familiar with them

you know as much as much as much as much

as I love working on Doctor Who stuff

this is my creator of a book Amber Adams

kind of like basically a female Flash

Gordon high adventure Space Opera type

stuff

um when somebody brings these books up

to get signed I just was like oh it

makes me feel so giddy I'm like so

thankful that they did that but I

originally put out four issues through

Image Comics and then I wrote and

Illustrated this series uh back in 2008

and unfortunately it could not have come

out at a worse time like it literally

was listening like December 2008 coming

out in February 2009 well for those that

remember the Great Recession happened

then and it decimated comic book stores

so I mean even Spider-Man that was

selling millions of copies comic stores

are only ordering 300 000 copies of

Spider-Man so that tells you the type of

Market that it could have came out in so

they were hoping for originally about 16

000 copies to be sold but it came in

lower but it it did well I got four

issues out

um and I never got to collect into a

trade paperback so what I did is I ran a

Kickstarter that just ended a couple

months ago collecting the first four

issues into a trade paperback for the

very first time there's a pinup gallery

of uh you know illustrations by some of

my friends uh in a very cover by Olivia

vatin like I was saying earlier and also

create a brand new seven page story that

I wrote Illustrated and colored myself

so that was one of those ones because

you know this is some of the older

artwork which I'm extremely proud of but

you know you grow you hopefully grow

within those years and so I wanted to

kind of show that like you know no this

is my newer style

um and I just want to do something that

was exclusive

um to the book so and yes it's uh the

kickstarter's ended successfully funded

over eight thousand dollars and funded

in the first four days which is really

exciting and just I'm so thankful for

the support

and uh yeah see there's a little look

what I've done Doctor Who

oh I don't think I didn't don't think I

didn't see it

yeah Luna's here sorry down okay

anytime one of our cats come on on our

screen we have to put up the traveling

charges catalog so she's here sorry if

I'd known that I would open my door I

would have left my it's okay

um

so that is the website for the

kickstarter you can go to Kelly Yates

art

.com yeah but yeah I'm going to

Kickstarter and uh search for Amber

Adams there's a pre-order link on there

interesting fact believe it or not so

when this originally came out

um I was contacted by a producer uh from

The Hitman movies and they were

interested in developing into a movie

and they were trying to attach Miley

Cyrus because she had just come off of

Hannah Montana and was looking for a

female sci-fi thing to do so it was you

know obviously it didn't happen and it's

so extremely difficult but it was fun

for about six months just kind of you

know

dreaming and hoping and talking about

yeah so yeah

but no it's it it's it you you did it

you me you you got it you were able to

reach your goal and it's it's awesome

that you're able to now again people go

on to kickstarter.com when you go to the

projects you could search for Adam Amber

Adams and that you can find it here and

you can pre-order

isn't it amazing it blows my mind you

can you can create something in your

mind

create it and put it out into the world

you know yeah

right okay I'll stop sharing I have a

pleasant surprise and I forgot that I

had these

um moving around Ken Spivey used to run

time lord Fest down here in Tampa

Orlando and then Central Florida area as

a gift he gave me these and I was like

wait a minute really it's like can't be

right so let me go ahead and I'm gonna

flake my head for a little bit but I

think these are yours sir oh yes yes I

did the first time that series

yeah top left his name his name's right

there

the covers on those phenomenal guy I

mean Mark Buckingham's awesome

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cursed this glare yes yes that was a

fairy tale line

and

there was another one he gave me

and I was just looking at it there

and this is a fairy tale life as well

what are you doing to Amy

poor girl what the heck's going on there

it's all in the story it's all right

you're gonna have to break the seal and

go let's read it I know it's well it's

one of those it's like no

kid gave these to me a while back I was

just like oh well thank you and I never

bothered to open them because it was

like well you know what those those it

meant something now that he's gone

that's just like yeah I don't want to

know if I want to open those with the

latest run of when I say latest I mean

it's been quite a few years now it's

just kovitz kind of thrown my brain off

with with how many years we've lost

um Titan had introduced reintroduced uh

the eighth doctor in Iran uh 9 10 11

blah blah blah

um but more more so the later ones and

each of them had a new companion did you

have a hand in designing those

companions or did the writer tell you

this is how we want to do the companion

and then you played with that or yeah

actually uh I was involved in other

things so I was not able to work on that

those series at that time and everything

so I wish I could have because they

looked really I enjoyed reading all of

them they're really fun to read so I

wasn't sure if you were had a pardon in

those particular comments because for a

while I know Titan was just going crazy

with Doctor Who and that's the problem I

can't be involved in everything you know

I say like I said I stay so busy but I

really appreciate the work that they put

into this because they really are

fantastic so

foreign

that same kind of period

um that you know what Chris Jones worked

on and who wrote it was a cat was it

Captain Scott was it I can't remember it

might have been my yeah it might have

been only because I've noticed as as of

late Heats on Star Wars High Republic

world like because also like wait a

minute wait okay Star Wars High Republic

novels comic books oh yeah yeah no I'm

so I I'm the type of person that's a

cheerleader for other creators like man

awesome I'm so so happy that you're

having that success

just love seeing it yeah

no question we do I'll bring these up

for you I I wasn't sure why did you get

the marks and Andrews on big finish on

all that

uh no okay I'll go back uh do you listen

to Big finish and is there any story

from big if you do is there any story

from Big finish that you would like a

turn like to turn into a comic so the

big finish is amazing I mean it's just

like there's so it's such a huge catalog

as we know and it's like I I can't I

don't even know where to start you know

I'm just like where are you

so but I've listened to I think one of

the ones that really stuck out to me is

uh what was the the end of light was it

the 50th Anniversary was yeah and the

end of life

at the end light at the end

yep yep

um

um so that one I've listened to some of

the David Tennant ones a lot of the Tom

Baker ones but not all of them I don't I

think that end of the light uh light end

kind of really was one of those it stuck

with me a little bit more than some of

the other stuff

um

uh but I gotta say those like when I

think about it I actually Illustrated uh

the last issue of prisoners of time it

was the 50th anniversary with like all

the doctors and all the Companions and I

even stuck in Peter Capaldi they just

announced him at the doctor you see his

head in the back on the last page uh

because we didn't know what his costume

looked like at the time uh but yeah so

that yeah so the big like multi-story

thing but I don't know I mean light at

the end I guess I don't know there's so

much

about where to start with big Finish

Well there here we go we're actually

doing a panel about spin-offs uh for

this weekend what spin-off would you

want to

uh

write a comic about if you had your

choice everything in the universe Jenny

the powder Noster gang

uh Diego and leifa where would would you

one be the one that goes that's the one

I'm gonna grab and and run with

and doesn't have to be big finish but uh

what about anybody else anybody

there's nothing you just looked at

Doctor Who and said you know what that

person or those group of people deserve

a spin-off

thing there's so many great ones right I

mean I mean there's so many and I think

I think a lot of them just live in the

TV world so much better because they did

they did a um Master Series the the

Missy series that Titan put out I think

it was last year the year before I think

so it was like kind of like the the

multi-doctor storyline it's kind of like

the multi-master story so it was pretty

interesting so I thought that was kind

of I wasn't involved in it but still

being a fan I really enjoyed the premise

and where they went with it in the art

it was all really top-notch I can't

remember the name I think it was just

Missy Comics or something like that so

that was a good one to check out

um I will say so stepping outside a

doctor who one thing I've always been

interested in was Star Wars I would love

love I've always loved this character

um lady Vader

um

no you just got to see Melanie's face

sorry yeah I just I would love I would

love to do like a lady Vader

is this character again that was

introduced in the the classic uh Marvel

Run and that's just come you can do you

could do a series about that miniseries

or something I think there's enough

around that yeah that would be amazing

because honestly because that was

because that was going to be the

question I was gonna throw out there for

Star Wars is like if you could write

anything what era of Star Wars would you

want to go to and I see that you're

going lady Vader for more of an

alternative alternate universe kind of

deal but is there a specific error that

you're like

I actually pitched it to Randy stradley

the head guy at dark dark horse years

ago I was out San Diego again San Diego

so I did this illustration of her and

um you know kind of kind of gave him a

loose outline and he really liked it

because that's really great I would love

it he goes nobody will buy it

how dare well let's be fair I mean there

wasn't really a lot of Star Wars coming

out when I was pitching that you know

we're not in this new uh-oh cat sorry

so no hard feelings other than you know

just I wanted to have something

published but it was I get it I

completely get it so but I tried you did

try

now it's like every there's so much of

every era that they're going for whether

or not you want to go Galactic Republic

High Republic Old Republic this Republic

what is this Empire post Empire

yeah the people that want to ignore

people that don't want to or whatever

yes it's a lot to keep up with

almost like big finish I don't know so I

was about to say almost like this was

like great

it's just like somebody will ask me it's

like where do you start with big finish

I'm like good luck

it's the same thing like asking where

somebody says where do you start with

Doctor Who I'm like oh God right right

you know actually when I add you know my

answer to that is kind of recently I

used to kind of recommend blink but I

was like you know really that's such a

great episode but doctors the doctor's

not really in it it doesn't really so

always kind of like telling people you

watch new who I always say the 11th Hour

just because you get a good flavor of

what Doctor Who is you get the idea that

there's other doctors I feel like it's a

really kind of a will if you were to

introduce somebody for the first time I

feel like that's a good episode

so

usually uh well I mean we had a couple

episodes so we called the the Doctor Who

starter kit where we come up with ideas

but usually I try to pair it off with

something that they like so if they like

mystery I'll find you know the Mystery

episodes like blink or

um

uh was it a high did they like uh like

horror or things like that I tried to

Max it up but usually in the starter kit

for me it's uh Vincent and the doctor

because it's the best of everything out

there I mean yeah I was just like oh you

like Titanic yeah let me give you

Vincent the doctor I'll give you five

minutes and a box of tissues before it's

all over oh yeah no that's a really good

point like a starter kit like watch

these three episodes right find the

flavor yeah absolutely and you usually

try to mix up the doctors too so that

they get a different flavor you get

tenant or you get Eccles Center you get

uh Whitaker or you get uh Capaldi so let

me ask everybody here a question what do

you think about the Disney plus thing

the distribution through Disney Plus

I don't know

okay I'm cautiously optimistic yeah

I think you could go horribly horribly

wrong but the odd well like it could go

horribly horribly right

are pretty significant as well well for

me they're just distribution right now I

don't know if they have any artistic say

I know that's all RTD

so I don't know if they're just buying

more IP because that's what I did he was

grabbing Star Wars and in a lucasfilm

and and Marvel and he was just grabbing

IP before covet happened I think maybe

Doctor Who was in there now before

everything came down people were

wondering whether Doctor Who was going

to survive the BBC because Unfortunately

they had lost their licensing fee they

mean that they lost being a law that you

had to pay for this fee now people are

getting out of that by some act so

usually sci-fi is the first one to get

the ax because that's usually you know

dramas are easy to put out there

comedies and reads out there but when

you have something as big budget like

sci-fi we were all worried that Doctor

Who was the first to go and then RTD

came in and just wild all of us like oh

it belongs to Sony now

okay had you told me that like 10 years

ago that this was going to happen that

RTD was going to come back he was going

to buy it with bad wolf and bad wolf was

going to be bought out by Sony and you

know the guys who made Spider-Man the

Spider-Man movie and then Disney plus

was going to distribute it I thought you

you know I would have you check for

drugs there was no Wayne heck and I was

like I just remember being so

ecstatic because I remember it was not

Disney plus but what was it X Disney XD

or something like that yeah for uh for

two small years

they had they've attendant episodes on

there they did yeah I remember the

commercials like they did and yeah they

had um they brought out the the doctor

would bring out the um

and it would say on there's like a

doctor who has ah exterminate so they

gave warning sign to the kid via the

psychic paper and it was all David I was

like oh my God they're really gonna move

in but I remember Doctor Who being on

four channels at one point he was on

sci-fi the original sci-fi not this

s-y-f-y it's you know the Sci-Fi that I

liked it was on Disney it was on PBS it

was on BBC America I was like I'm

getting this I'm getting Doctor Who

everywhere

so uh that that lasted for a while but I

I don't know

I'm wondering how that's going to affect

folks like you the creators of like

comic books and the merchandise where

does that go

or will they even have a say in it

I Russell T Davies has a tremendous

amount to say about what gets out and

what doesn't comic book wise right yeah

he has a lot of power in a good way he

has a lot of power so yeah so that's why

you're not seeing a lot of comic books

right now is my understanding he's kind

of like we need some breathing space

give us some room to get stuff out so

that's why you're not seeing so much

right now so give it a year I think like

and just like in the show he says give

us time to get it up and running you

know to build I think he said to build

the Empire or some term I don't know if

that's exactly what he said but it was

enough

get the universe going right so I think

that's where you're going to start

receiving the slow build uh and he's you

know they probably filled a ton of it by

now at this point based off of what I've

kind of seen and heard so it'll be it'll

be interesting for sure we had spin-offs

like Torchwood Sarah Jean and even if

you want to count that the K-9 Canadian

version out there and it was like there

were spin-offs going nutty and it's just

like now he's talking about spin-offs

again I'm just like

I'm not stopping you yeah and I know

people who started with Torchwood and

ended up in Doctor Who right they loved

this series called Torchwood and it knew

nothing about Doctor Who but somehow

they slid into it well I think it was a

comment earlier about the eighth doctor

or something I I would love to see this

is a perfect way if you're going to put

more content out there I'm sorry so do

do you like the mini episodes do a

season of mini episodes so do like 10 20

10 minute episodes and give us like

these little mini Seasons I mean people

would eat that up right I mean Star Wars

like they're doing with those you know

little prequel yeah lips

yeah even like the visions and and all

those other kind of things where you're

just having like this little kind of

taste of different stuff building a

universe and showing how Dynamic and

large and how much fun you could be

playing within this universe

began Vision again Vision advantage

I just yeah there's so much that could

potentially go on a big finish is and

also the comic books are a tribute to

the this universe just doesn't and it

just keeps expanding and one character

like Jenny the doctor's daughter who

ends up you know one episode and then

gets killed off comes back and she's got

her own series God only knows that

she'll come back and um the stories

never end you know I mean isn't

everybody waiting for that they're

waiting for Susan come back they're

waiting for Ginny come back they need to

okay

we got a photo of her in Capaldi's

little caretaker in his on his desk next

to River that's all we got of Susan like

just yeah bring Susan as uh Carol Ann

Ford back for just one I don't care if

you regenerate or just you know give her

a good story give her a good send-off or

something to bring her back I know she's

done the audio

um but and and I like the audience with

uh Paul McGann and her uh there's audio

it's a Christmas story called Relative

Dimension and I won't go I don't want to

spoiler it but

um it's a really good story and there's

a big uh Family scene

together in there about things

oh

yeah I'm not the only one that heard

that right I'm not the one who heard

that no idea what it was that's okay

I got feedback I was like what is that

okay Kelly how about this question

opposed to you you're sitting at the

desk of RTD what would you tell them if

you had one thing you could tell RTD

besides hire me why would you tell them

I'm tired yeah

there's no chance you get fired

like you know I would love to see again

a Susan comeback storyline or you know I

mean let me design something let me

design uh you know a sonic screwdriver

let me you know I don't know if there's

anything I would tell him you know uh

what to do but I don't know okay you get

to design a screw a sonic screwdriver

what does it look like it looks like

this

I don't know I don't have some Grand

idea I mean they've done so many over

the years but I'm sure I could throw

something together and uh not make it

look like a lightsaber

wow oh

come on I couldn't say it wouldn't be

like a mini lightsaber you know like a

lady Vader or lightsaber or something I

don't know

that would be amazing

is that yeah

I do have the sport I have the spark in

my drawer it was given to me as a gift

yeah so the uh so the uh 11th Doctor

remote TV remote I mean come on was that

that was pretty dang cool

I've seen other people who

I saw it at Comic Con at San Diego and I

didn't play with it because they were

trying to you know sell it and all that

kind of stuff I'm like oh this is

actually pretty cool

but I had already spent a lot the 11th

doctor tongs those were my favorite it

was a huge yeah I said I actually played

it with um uh Heather who used to own a

uh Heather

um my friend who used to go around she

had a doctor who merchandise Foods at

the conventions and she always had these

Doctor Who tongs it was the 11th

Doctor's sonic screwdrivers like this

big and you pulled it out and it was

just these cooking tongues so I'm just

like wow

that's the one I would go for

I would be afraid to put those things

near a grill because usually all that

kind of fun stuff was plastic yeah

exactly

well the fun parts to go into the grill

are not but if you were to put it on the

grill yeah that would be the yeah

but uh I don't know so I what

just let me run around the Tardis sub

again

which I got to do that that was did you

get to do that I did I did how did you

get to do that um

um so I did my first show in uh the UK a

few years back and uh you know it was in

leads called thought bubble and this guy

comes around we start talking we

actually had a friend in common we were

like oh you're talking about art and

everything and uh he's like what are you

doing I was like well my wife and I were

just gonna rent a car we're gonna go do

this we're gonna go to cart up and see

the uh you know the Doctor Who

experience I'm here let me at least go

do it you know and like he goes um would

you like to tour this uh the Tardis I'm

like

oh yeah I would what are you what do you

mean well come to find out he was a

producer on the show

um for like a year two two and a half

years

um he worked on like the 50th

anniversary special and stuff like that

so yeah I got to go over there my wife

and I got to run around the sub the

Tardis for like a few hours I took

pictures and uh I went through

everything and a lot of those pictures

actually used as reference foreign

silver one so like there were pictures I

was taking of the guitar rack and I put

it in you know just yeah close over it

but it was like the hulanta cover I used

um that's where he went through work

yeah I need these photos reference

photos I took like thousands of pictures

yeah speaking of wife I want to

congratulate you congratulations on your

19th anniversary oh thank you thank you

that was awesome yeah and you together

19 years yes yes it's like wow it's like

pretty and we dated one so we actually

known each other since two so like 24

years we've known each other which is

just I I'm so thankful uh just so

so happy and blessed and uh man yeah

it's just been it's been a great life

it's been great spending time with her

it's been a journey it's a journey it's

a journey it is yeah and so another 19

and another 19 after that and another 19

after that I don't know about that maybe

maybe one or two more I don't know about

three more

you're in the bathroom picking each

other's Dentures up that's how that's

well

I guess right yes

so I just real quick I think that I find

amazing with relationships or our

relationship is that somebody would they

would choose to spend their life with

you I think that's one of the most

amazing gifts ever you know that

somebody would choose you know I know

marriage isn't for everybody for me it

is and uh somebody's like yeah you know

what I want to spend my life with you I

think

that's just amazing to me I joke that my

husband has to deal with me so I'm like

oh that's thank you I thank you for some

part of it though right nobody was

killed yeah

but yeah it was fun for her she ran

around and said that she's not a big

sci-fi person she's not but to her just

so she's pulling levers and you know she

was having a great time too

enjoyment what does she do what does she

do for a living if you don't let me ask

you oh she's uh she's a much better

person than me she actually helps people

so she's a therapist and uh oh okay it's

a it's a that man that's a brave she's a

brave person because I um I I like

talking with people and I my you know

sympathize and empathize to uh to help

people in that fashion is amazing

because I I couldn't do it

it takes it absolutely takes a special

certain someone to be able to help and

compartmentalize for their own mental

health and assist others with theirs so

yeah that's Bravo to her I mean it also

takes a special someone to be able on

the other side of that to support her as

well yes it's important yes let's talk

about me and more how much I support her

no you're right you're you're a thousand

percent right just trying to find the

balance of like just being a therapist

too you know

one of my contracts is working for a

psychology clinic so yeah no I'm I'm my

psychologist psychologist

well I find for me like actually kind of

like when people look at my artwork I

can make them laugh and smile about

something when they're looking through

my portfolio of artwork

then I've done my job I've made them

I've entertained them I made them happy

even if it's for half a second then I've

helped them

Mark Robinson has a question Kelly would

you do a do dark style of comics like

James obar he you know I I'm never I've

read the crow books and all that stuff

and I think they're fantastic I mean I

read

books in that vein everything but I've

always kind of found myself attracted to

a little bit more of the brighter

poppier more you know I've never so with

Amber Adams I would never like want to

go super dark with her I like to keep

things light and bouncy because I feel

like there's so much darkness in the

world that I want to give some light to

the world you know that's not to say

that that discounts what James did with

the with the crow and all that stuff

um it was definitely a place for it but

that's just not my story to tell right

so yeah nope that's fair yeah good

question though yeah

is there any other questions Christian

that I have is it I just um

I do see one well there we go what's

your favorite one what's your favorite

UK comic oh that's I mean honestly

I'll be honest with you I have not read

too many

UK in the sense of like

uh well I will tell you this I mean the

stories weren't any different but

um we had an Irish exchange student come

over to stay with us in the early 80s

for two summers and everything and he

would always bring me a stack of Star

Wars weekly Comics okay you know and

there were some other things mixed in

there as well I can't remember what so I

can't say you know I haven't really

gotten into the judge I mean I've read

some of the American Judge Dread things

I just it's never been easily accessible

for me so that's not to say that I

wouldn't read it and I wouldn't even

know where to start maybe to start with

2000 A.D from the the very first one I

hear some great things about those runs

and everything but yeah I'll be honest

with you I haven't read as much UK books

as I probably should and that that was

more again accessibility I think when I

was growing up was just not having that

you know because if you ordered

something it took six months to get here

and that's even if you could get it so

I'm open to reading UK books how about

that okay

yeah nowadays it's everything you can

get is in what two days thanks sir

thanks to Amazon you're like oh what do

you mean I'm I mean I can't get that

instantly I'll just read it online yeah

yeah okay folks well Kelly thank you so

much just a reminder this weekend if you

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I say this affectionately Kelly am I

missing anything to tell our audience is

there anything else you would like to

tell them what's going on yeah upcoming

projects I could stay home for two more

hours talking Doctor Who let's do it no

I can't too I'm gonna stay on till we

get to 69 000. that's my promise holy

cow

this weekend I'm really looking forward

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couple pieces of original art uh if I

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um but yeah just uh

I appreciate uh y'all having me on it's

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means and Dave are you saying you're

playing the game tonight

I was seeing if anyone wanted to I will

probably go live and do something later

because I have my setup set up okay

and just in case you guys want to join

Dave

let me he is playing to play uh doctor

world's part

um you're gonna be on the twitch channel

right yeah I'll be over on Twitch when

we do that okay you can sign up for free

and play uh There's the link yeah it's

my uh referral link that's fine uh but

you get to play for free you get to

check it out and plus you get to see all

the uh cards that are gonna be out there

um you know what just for Giggles you

want me to run the commercial real fast

so people can see that again yeah sure

got it I don't have the new computer and

I need to tell Mort when he starts going

looking for more artists that there's

one right here that he shouldn't yeah oh

yes definitely and uh we don't have the

new commercial in our system as again

you've seen it run before but we're

having some issues with it so uh here is

the old commercial so you can just see

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extra ones but you can absolutely play

for free and again it's turn based it's

really cool and all of the cards and

everything are done by actual artists

there's no Ai and again you get to play

for free or you can purchase any of the

cards uh and they are blockchain

technology so they are um they're yours

you get to keep them you can trade them

you can sell them you can do whatever

you want

alrighty gang well thank you so much for

joining us next week I have no idea what

we're going to be doing because this

weekend

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we're going to be doing Dr spinos with

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crizell a special big finish panel so

I'm excited to see that because I'd

rather than stuff out uh local time 11

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and then Saturday it'll be noon to noon

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I'm okay with that with that see he's

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it's okay

keep an eye out because Dave may be

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play with him uh you're gonna do it on

Twitch right I guess

yeah and just just for the record since

I did promise in my stream beforehand to

to report back as to how my baking

turned out

uh the Oaken bread now a small portion

of it did stick to the the bottom of the

pan and that's my own damn fault but uh

yum

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pleasure but the words I kind of regret

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