Published June 6, 2023, 5:20 p.m. by Violet Harris
'The Five' co-hosts react to reports students are being forced to censor themselves at school debate tournaments.
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>> Harold: HIGH SCHOOL DEBATE
CLUBS USED TO ENCOURAGE A
HEALTHY AND OPEN DEBATE OF
IDEAS, STUDENT CLAIMS SHE WAS
ONE NOT TO BRING A FORMER
PRESIDENT TRUMP AT A RECENT
TOURNAMENT.
SPEAK OF A STUDENT LIKE ME GOING
INTO DEBATE DEBT-FREE AND OPEN
CONVERSATIONS IS BEING CENSORED
IN THIS WAY, THAT IS NO LONGER
DEBATE AND THE NACA MUST BE
RECOGNIZED AS AN ORGANIZATION
THAT IS NOT ALLOWING STUDENTS
LIKE MYSELF TO EXPRESS OPENLY.
>> Harold: I SAW WHEN SHE WAS
ON YOUR SHOW I SAW THAT
INTERVIEW AND YOUR ENCOURAGEMENT
OF HER AFTERWARDS WAS GREAT,
WHAT HAVE WE COME TO ONE
ELEMENTS IN THE DEBATE YOU CAN'T
MENTION A NAME?
>> IT'S EVEN DEEPER THAN THAT, A
GUY NAMED FISHBACK WROTE A PIECE
FOR BARRY WEISS ABOUT THIS
CONCERN.
BASICALLY THE DEBATE SITUATION
IS -- THE JUDGES ARE USUALLY
VOLUNTEERS AND YOU THINK OF A
JUDGE, YOU COME IN AND IT'S
SUPPOSED TO BE NONBIASED, I'M
GOING TO LISTEN TO ARGUMENTS AND
ARGUMENTS AND WENT TO RULE BASED
ON THE MERITS -- THAT'S HOW IT'S
SUPPOSED TO GO.
WHAT HAS BEEN HAPPENING IS SOME
OF THE JUDGES ARE POSTING THINGS
ON LINE SAYING YOU DON'T BRING
UP ISRAEL, YOU BETTER NOT SAY
THAT CAPITALISM IS GOOD OR IT
REDUCES POVERTY.
DON'T YOU DARE BRING UP
PRESIDENT TRUMP AND SOMEONE SAID
THAT TO HER NOT TO DO THAT.
THE TOPIC WAS ABOUT JOE BIDEN'S
FOREIGN POLICIES -- SHE WANTED
TO MAKE A COMPARISON TO THE
PREVIOUS ADMINISTRATION WHICH IS
WHAT YOU DO WHEN YOU'RE TRYING
TO FIGURE OUT SOME OF THESE ARE
GOOD TO.
SHE MENTIONED THERE IS GOING TO
BE A NEW REQUIREMENT WITH THIS
ASSOCIATION TO HAVE MULTIPLE
LGBTQ JUDGES AND THAT'S GOING TO
BE A REQUIREMENT EVEN THOUGH
THEY DON'T REQUIRE ANYBODY TO BE
FAITH-BASED OR WORKING CLASS OR
ANYTHING ELSE.
IT DOVETAILS WITH THE
CONVERSATION WE HAD YESTERDAY
WITH THE GRADUATION WE HAD THE
STUDENT WHO WAS SAYING BIZARRE
AND HORRIBLE THINGS, IT'S NOT
JUST COLLEGE WERE THIS IS
HAPPENING, NOW IT'S SEEPING INTO
HIGH SCHOOL.
>> IN DEBATES SOMETIMES YOU ARE
PRESENTED WITH THE QUESTION THEY
ASK YOU TO ARGUE STUFF YOU DON'T
AGREE WITH, WHAT'S YOUR
REACTION?
>> I WAS NEVER IN DEBATE CLUB IN
HIGH SCHOOL, I WAS HEAVENLY NOT
SMART ENOUGH FOR THAT AND I'M
GLAD THERE ARE MORE NOW
VOLUNTEER TRANSGENDER
HIGH SCHOOL DEBATE CLUB JUDGES,
FINALLY WE'VE BROKEN THAT GLASS
CEILING.
YOU GUYS KEEP LOSING DEBATES,
THIS IS ON YOU, YOU GUYS ALWAYS
COME TO DEBATES UNARMED CAN BE
DON'T KNOW THE FACTS, FIGURES
COME YOU DON'T KNOW THE
HISTORICAL CONTEXT.
THAT'S WHY YOU'RE TRYING TO SHUT
DOWN THE DEBATES, REGULATE THEM.
BY DENNIS SKIPPING DEBATES, THE
WOMAN IN ARIZONA WON BECAUSE SHE
DIDN'T DEBATE.
CAN YOU EVEN IMAGINE
KAMALA HARRIS?
NOT EVEN A DEBATE, HOW ABOUT A
DISCUSSION?
CAN YOU IMAGINE KAMALA HARRIS
DOING IN OUR RADIO INTERVIEW
WITH BRET BAIER?
SPEAKING OF BRET BAIER,
JOE BIDEN WOULDN'T EVEN DEBATE
BRET BAIER ON THE SUPER BOWL.
THIS IS WHERE WE ARE GOING AND
IF YOU CAN'T DEBATE AN ISSUE
THAT MEANS YOUR ISSUE IS WEAK
AND THEY KNOW THE ISSUE IS WEAK
CAMINO WITH THE BEST WAY TO DO
TO AVOID LOSING?
IS NOT TO PLAY AND THAT'S WHAT
THIS IS.
>> Harold: I THINK
PRESIDENT BIDEN SHOULD DEBATE
AND I THINK PRESIDENT TRUMP
SHOULD DEBATE AS WELL WHAT ARE
YOUR THOUGHTS ON THIS?
>> THE ISSUE WAS ONE OF
FREE SPEECH AND IF WE ARE GOING
BACK TO THE FUNDAMENTAL RIGHTS,
IF WE ARE GOING BACK TO THE IDEA
THAT KIDS SHOULD BE ABLE TO
DEBATE, UNDERSTAND BOTH SIDES OF
AN ISSUE, THE LAST THING YOU DO
IS CUT BACK ON FREE SPEECH AND
THE FACT THERE ARE ARGUMENTS ON
BOTH SIDES.
IT DEFEATS THE WHOLE PURPOSE OF
THE DEBATE, IT REALLY DOES.
>> Greg: THEIR ARGUMENT IS
THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS BOTH
SIDES OF ONE SIDE IS DEEMED
EVIL.
THE TWO SIZE IS WITHIN THEIR ONE
SIDE AND THIS WHOLE THING IS
DESIGNED FOR REPLICATION.
WITH SEE A TEAM IS RADICALIZED
AND HITS THE REAL WORLD, STARTS
READING OTHER BOOKS, BECOMES A
PRODUCTIVE MEMBER OF SOCIETY.
THERE WILL ALWAYS BE ANOTHER
RADICAL TO REPLACE HIM OR HER
BECAUSE THIS IS AN IDIOT
CONVEYOR BELT, AND NEVER ENDS,
NEVER RUN OUT OF THESE
DESTRUCTIVE COGS, THAT MEANS
WHEN ONE GETS OUT YOU HAVE TO
GRAB HIM AND TRIED TO GET HIM
BACK TO NORMAL -- SLAP HIM
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