Published July 9, 2023, 6:20 a.m. by Liam Bradley
HOW I FINANCE MY 10 SUPERCAR COLLECTION! Talking car finance with the guys at Charles & Dean. Contact them & read more here https://www.charlesanddean.com/tge
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hello hello and welcome back to cg tv
more specifically ladies and gentlemen
welcome back to a rooftop in
london now today is an exciting video
but it's also an informative video for
once
you may well learn something from this
video a very rare occasion on this
channel that i might impart some useful
information
i'm here you may well have seen not only
with this lovely defender charles and
dean we'll get on to why that is here
i'm also here with three of my cars
unfortunately i haven't managed to get
all my cars
onto the top of a tesco car park but i
have got three of them up here so we're
gonna go around them i'm just gonna show
you
so for the first time ever i've actually
got these three cars together and this
is probably the most amount of my
collection
i've ever actually got together in one
place at one time so we'll start with
the f12
many of you being there badgering me on
social media thinking that i've sold
this car
i haven't it's still with me still in my
possession and i still love it so
the f12 is alive and kicking probably
one of my favorite cars of all time the
turbo s is here with it
again probably do you know what if i had
to choose between keeping one of these
two cars
it would be a very very tough bet
between the two of these
hmm i think it'd probably still be f12
just because of the noise and we've got
the amg gt here as well now this isn't a
vanity project
i'm not just bringing these up here to
show off uh and show you all
how many cars i've got and i can shove
them all in car park at the same time
today
i'm going to be talking finance the f
word not that f word
but a word that is banded around a lot
all over social media all over kind of
internet forums
and just in general in the supercar
world so i'm going to dispel some myths
i'm going to go through fine i'm going
to go through how i fund all my cars
uh particularly with the recent edition
of the carrera gt and something else
coming very soon
potentially which uh i'm going to throw
on the chat that i'm about to put into
this video so i'm going to get mike
from charles and dean into the video i'm
going to throw him in to the passenger
seat i think of the f12 we'll go for a
hoon in the f12
i'm going to talk all things money
finance uh how it all works and
dispel some myths as well which may well
save you some money and some heartache
when you come to get out of your car
at the other end because that is an
element of finance that no one really
talks about they're all kind of
obsessed with monthlies and kind of
balloons and interest rates but actually
really uh you really need to be looking
at how you get out of the car so we're
going to go through all of this
and i'm going to try and save you some
money and be quite helpful so without
further ado
let's go with the video let's get a fire
up then
not so dramatic already warm right then
we are in the car
with mike that i have just mentioned say
hello mike hi
is this your first time on youtube it is
yeah first time
how are you feeling about it yeah yeah
good anxious stressed
nervous no i mean panic attacks how are
you feeling i'm in capable hands with
you so
i'm sure you are not in capable hands
you're with me in an f12 it couldn't be
any more incapable
so mike is the gentleman responsible
for funding my cars he is actually my
point of contact at charles and dean
and he's the guy on the ground uh
dealing with my
basically do you like dealing with me
yeah it's good you're also a very good
liar well done yeah
um so what i really like about charlie
is the fact that
i can contact my and this this is
probably something you don't like about
charleston team i can contact mike
um any time of the day within reason
yeah and if you can reply he will and
it's it's really cool often
dealing with people you know you get
sort of hours between emails and it's
just absolute hell uh
and yeah mike is a car guy are you not i
am huge petrol head yeah
yeah he's in his car so he knows the
market
he knows the car market he knows cars he
knows funding and it's just a nice kind
of uh as i say
earlier a holistic kind of um approach
at chelsea which is that
cullen is rich could i find one of them
would you be able to get me in one of
them as well yeah
fine you won't tell me that no don't
tell me that so so so so
so we'll go we'll go to the basics then
so we did the crowd gt
uh i hope you don't mind me saying that
that was not an easy deal
no uh i found it hard and i'm just at
the end i just sent documents across so
that was a really really difficult deal
to to fund and i think you've probably
only really just got over it
yeah i mean it was uh it was there was
lots that went into it
with not only the asset the car yeah
that we had to
value assess make sure that it was um
you know not not only you know right for
you but also you know the
many different bits that we had to put
together and then also obviously your
income as well that we had to um you
know depict and present to the
underwriters which was uh
yeah it's a challenge but we got there
you put that very
uh politically correctly and basically
there's an absolute fact every single
element of that deal was a complete
nightmare
and through to my income streams um
through to the asset itself
through to even the proof of title on
the asset because a lot of these high
high value items are held by companies
or sometimes they're held by sbvs um if
you know what that is if you don't then
don't worry about it um
but it's a complete faff basically and
then sometimes uh
not with this car um but sometimes you
get cars that are
uh being sold as a result of kind of
divorce settlements these kind of top
top end cards
and these things sometimes are hidden
from women and there is just hell
so yeah those those sorts of assets the
real kind of specialist stuff i wouldn't
trust anyone else with it and
god forbid the next time i come to do a
high value call like that
um unfortunately it's going to land on
your desk so
look for a new job when you see it when
you see that come through but no plans
as yet to get anything stupid stupid i
think the next time around it might be
an f40
um so you've been getting
yeah so then i want a myth bust i want
to kind of dispel some myths surrounding
finance because i realize there's a lot
of people doing videos about finance
and there's a lot of there's a lot of
rubbish out there not just those videos
but just in general there's a lot of
rubbish out there even
um friends of mine people that i know
people in the kind of super
supercar world that finance cars i hear
a lot of this is the main thing that i
hear and you you can get onto kind of
the main kind of stuff that you get in
your ear all day
the main thing i get when people say you
know how much your cars
people or i want to fund a car you know
how much is it a month do you get that
as well people kind of ringing up and
saying i want this how much is it a
month
and it's not that simple and you just
replying
uh 500 quid a month and then saying okay
great sign me up
you're not doing them the best deal
you're not looking after them you're not
adhering to your duty of care to them
and necessarily getting them the best
deal just by getting them the cheapest
monthly it looks better on paper having
a cheaper monthly but
that's not also often the best practice
i
often don't it's not that i don't care
what the monthly is but
i look at it as a whole package you know
what's going to happen when i come out
of the car
um the deposit in the rate the term
all things like that not just how much
it is a month so i would always
take a much higher monthly um meaning
i'm paying off more than the capital
than say like an interest-only deal
which you're obviously just um dribbling
off the interest and you owe the same at
the end of the agreement as you do at
the start i mean what's the most common
thing you get kind of
the main thing you kind of have to take
people back a few steps when they kind
of ring you and ask about finance yeah
yeah so mostly we find that a lot of
people are very as you mentioned monthly
driven
so yeah and a lot of people going with a
budget in mind
now he's understandable so he said i get
that but
sorry no so a lot of people will come
across and they'll look
for you know they'll say they've got a
certain monthly budget in mind and with
that monthly budget they might find that
actually
it does allow them to exit when they
need to so when we have a new inquiry
we'll work with that individual
to look at not only the the start of the
agreement to make sure they're happy
with the deposit
happy with the monthly repayments um but
also we tend to go into quite a bit of
detail about how to exit
so they might say okay i want to exit in
two years time so we'll ensure that
after two years they're not upside down
where they can't exit without putting
enough money up front
and there's a lot of that about now
there's some lenders that
have been practicing and i've seen it
firsthand with friends of mine
um i'm going to follow my mood the mood
is behind me no go ahead mate because i
don't know where we're going
go on mate here we go good pace guys
following the moves never going to work
uh so we've got my mood in my mg gt up
ahead and um
tom from charleston dean driving around
at my terrace do we have any clues where
he is
no idea running up some speed tickets
somewhere
um so then that is very very important
and then there are a lot
of and these are people i've worked with
in the past and i'm not i'm not actually
slagging anyone off it's just common
practice
just wedging people into cars getting
them in getting whatever it is the
customer wants be it cheap monthlies
um or you know a really short term for
no reason or a really long term for some
reason whatever whatever looks best on
paper superficially
just wedging them in getting the deal
done and having no regard for their
long-term financial security how they're
going to get out of that deal
uh and also a longer-term business
relationship because the end of the day
if you
if you stiff someone on a car yeah two
years down the line they're not funding
with you again no
no so i've seen a lot of that and it's
kind of
yeah it's not nice to see sometimes so a
lot of people are upside down
yeah we want to make sure that if you
the individual wants to exit and swap
and
they might be buying a car as a bit of a
bridging gap before they buy their next
car
so we want to set it up so when they get
to that point where that car that they
really want comes available that they
can exit when they want to
and then of course then we we hope that
those customers will then keep coming
back to us
so what are the factors then kind of
that improves someone's chances of
getting credit
um other than the right car of course so
something like the carrera gt i remember
when we when we were doing it you
actually compiled uh almost kind of a
report on on
the latest ones that had sold where the
market trends were going
um things like that that all goes into
you putting proposition forward it's not
just a case of
you forwarding emails with bank
statements it's not that's all
that's kind of a common misconception as
well brokers aren't just there
just to forward info and just stick it
into a zip file that's not what it's
about at all so
i was actually amazed when i saw that
because that up until then that's all i
thought
um you know finance brokers did so when
you when you showed me all that stuff i
was like
goodness man yeah what a lot of people
think is a lot of it's automatic
so a lot of people think you just put in
details and it clicks and goes what we
tend to do and
what makes brokers slightly different
and what our job is slightly different
is um
we'll write a storyboard um and it could
be you know several pages long
where we build a picture about the the
client their employment
and then also um we'll build a um an
image you know
to the underwriter of the vehicle as
well so we'll add
um history of it we'll add um
potentially you know links of other
vehicles where
they've sold for certain prices yeah and
we built a big old document up to put
into the um
to the underwriter i was amazed by that
i didn't realize any of that going on
and
that's the first time i'd seen it
because you know you you do sometimes
get caught finance
in car dealerships where they just it's
a computer says no kind of thing
it's just name address blah blah blah
and the other thing as well i really
want to up
getting my mortgage recently um my
credit score
is now it's not bad it's now fair
i've never missed a b on any payment as
long as i've lived no ccjs no
no bankruptcies nothing like literally
there's no adverse on there whatsoever
but even having your credit uh report
searched your your name
searched will bring your credit rating
down so
i wouldn't if you want to shop around
and kind of you know get different
quotes and whatever
just be very careful that people aren't
putting searches against your name
because
it will just drag your rating down it
doesn't matter what the result is
it will just drag your rating down as
well that's one thing i never knew so i
was shocked the other day when i came to
get my mortgage now like
your credit score's fair fair's just
like a
it's almost insulting something yeah
it's all right kind of my lending money
might not
he knows something we try and do as well
is if there is any reason
sorry um if there's any reason why we
have to search another lender
so if yeah this one doesn't work and we
have to go elsewhere
um that'll always be a conversation
we'll have with the individual anyway
before we do anything like that yeah i
remember you speaking to me and say look
i'm going to do a search at this point
or we won't do searches until this point
you're very very clear about that which
is which is really cool very considerate
because you can ruin someone's life
credit rating these days
you know it's life and death it's
important yeah especially for mortgages
for buying
cars and um the the score's important to
uh
and your credit profile in general is
important to keep it um protected and
make sure there's not too many searches
going on
absolutely and the elephant in the room
obviously i've worked with other finance
brokers in the past and some of them
made uh made an appearance on my social
media and a lot of people have
asked me you know why don't you work
with various people or
whoever i'm not going to name names um
but the fact of the matter is i
just i tried with the carrera gt
and the fact of the matter is charles
and dean absolutely nailed it they
nailed the deal
um i did shop around on that um
i kind of spread it out and i shopped
around we had no existing business
relationship before that
i didn't know you guys at all i came to
them as a cold customer
and hey i was very impressed
and b they the the deal that got put
together and what got achieved
the length on that car nobody got near
it so
um yeah the proof's in the pudding with
that and i i don't think i'd ever look
back so
uh hats off i caused mike many sleepless
nights that was not an easy car to find
i mean i cannot stress that enough i
can't go into it but
it was just a complete pig and we were
kind of going into um
kind of coveted times as well yeah
everyone was getting squeaky bums
it was all getting a little bit
stressful so we're gonna go down this
way we're gonna
park up now we're gonna do some some
concepts for charles and dean's
social media but it goes without saying
if you want any
um finance finance advice
anything like that do give these guys a
shout um ask
mike if you want they allowed to do that
yeah you can ask me yeah if anyone wants
to speak to you probably right now by
the time this video goes on stress of
dealing with me for the night
um but yeah do give them a shout and as
i say they'll be on hand not just to
kind of wedge you into a car but also
advise you if you're looking at like two
or three particular cars
they can actually kind of um run some
numbers and see what comes out best
because it's very asset dependent
some cars are cheaper to fund than other
ones um some of them are residually very
sound
so porsches tend to be good news the
finance on them tend to be quite good
um i mean i can't resist having a dig
but if you wanted to fund a mclaren
mike will probably just hang up now i'm
joking away um but
the kind of depreciation all that kind
of stuff is taken into account and
desirability
uh the amount on the market all that
kind of stuff spec um so
yes i think that's it any other business
oh everyone wants to know
how much will my cars cost a month so um
current gt i've touched on that in
another video that's four thousand
something a month isn't it
yeah four grand a month lovely stuff um
this is 2200 a month or thereabouts i
think uh the pista
is was uh 3300 uh
mggt there's an undisclosed sum a month
uh range rate is about 700 quid
what else have i got turbo s two and a
half grand
um yeah i can't remember the others
it's too many losing track the older
ones they all sort of 300 quid 400 quid
defender
912 996 and we'll
turn it off before the residents of this
uh snooty muse tell us to go away
and final thing you do business finance
as well
um so particularly if your business is
struggling at the moment you can
actually repackage
any liabilities on your business
and kind of repackage that into
something that you can know tackle in 12
months time for example if you're having
kind of cash flow issues or whatever
um you do you're kind of you assist with
all the covered yep
schemes yeah it's all that good stuff uh
and also you know just a typical uh
asset financial if you want a new
tractor or you want a machinery or a
warehouse or whatever whatever you guys
do that as well yeah i think
people are often surprised that we don't
just do supercars we'll do anything from
jcb's to yeah you know but that shows
you understand lending
you understand lending um so that is
that is that and a lot of the guys you
deal with as well they're not just you
know
paye they're kind of business owners
like me who don't necessarily have just
you know a pay slip at the end of the
month to say
this is it times it by 12 that's why i
earn it i have these companies i draw
xyz blah blah blah
dividends all the nonsense so um yeah
you're very well versed to navigate all
of that any other business
no i think you covered everything good
hopefully you found this useful
being sensible on the channel for a
change um
as much as many of you think i run
around chatting chaos and that's what i
do
there is you have to have an
understanding of this stuff uh i mean i
could probably get a job in a finance
brokerage now
bloody lending i've got involved in
jesus
three mortgages about 20 supercars on
finance
um i reckon you could take my job
do you know what i hate people so i
couldn't i couldn't do it
i could do it i'd be fine within a week
how i speak to people anyway
i think that's it thank you very much i
appreciate your time um
yeah as i say give like a shout uh and
normal nonsense will resume on my
channel very very soon and do stay tuned
because i
am going to see a car tomorrow on the
other side of the country
and i told you about this yesterday you
did it absolutely
and i'm hoping it appears on the channel
very soon it is iconic it is iconic
and it is it's going to be good ah it's
unbelievable so hopefully hopefully
hopefully we can get that done
by my midst mortgage so i have to trade
very carefully
anywho chow for now any funny words nope
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